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Old 12-07-2020, 04:49 PM
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Just back Roy. Hes a good manager. Any new manager will have the same problems with a small ageing squad.

Today was really poor no doubt, but not worthy of getting rid of your manager.
He chose to spend money and wages on 2 DMs in the summer. He declined more creative ones
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It's all part of Roy's masterplan so that teams vastly underestimate us in the 1st half of next season and we accrue the necessary 42pts after 20 games to be safe again before easing down to a 15th place finish.....and repeat ad nauseam.
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Roy has done a good job after FdB.. but he is one dimensional and I wouldn’t trust him with a transfer budget especially with him being here for only a max 1 season. Get the new person in and let them rebuild.
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Our transfer budget will be almost non-existent due to our debt level.
We also have too many players on inflated salaries that they won't want to give up.
We're stuck with Sakho, Meyer, Benteke and Zaha because no one will improve their current income.
Wilf's value is also far less than it was 12 months ago.
We also need to finance the ground development.

The likes of Sean Dyche or Eddie Howe won't want to come to us with such a constrained financial situation.
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Our transfer budget will be almost non-existent due to our debt level.
We also have too many players on inflated salaries that they won't want to give up.
We're stuck with Sakho, Meyer, Benteke and Zaha because no one will improve their current income.
Wilf's value is also far less than it was 12 months ago.
We also need to finance the ground development.

The likes of Sean Dyche or Eddie Howe won't want to come to us with such a constrained financial situation.
Our debt level is fine.
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Because I do.

Roy has done a good job after FdB.. but he is one dimensional and I wouldnt trust him with a transfer budget especially with him being here for only a max 1 season. Get the new person in and let them rebuild.
I suspect there is a transfer budget, just not for Roy. The squad needs an overhaul and you need someone who could be here for a longer term to do it. No point giving it to Roy to reshape the squad, only for him to leave in a year and the new manager come in and want to move people on and shape the squad how he wants.

I wonder if hell see out the season, with an agreement that hell retire once its done and well start the process of replacing him now?
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I suspect there is a transfer budget, just not for Roy. The squad needs an overhaul and you need someone who could be here for a longer term to do it. No point giving it to Roy to reshape the squad, only for him to leave in a year and the new manager come in and want to move people on and shape the squad how he wants.

I wonder if hell see out the season, with an agreement that hell retire once its done and well start the process of replacing him now?
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I think if that is the case he should maybe announce now that hes stepping down. Give the fans a little bit of a lift and buzz about new fresh start
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I suspect there is a transfer budget, just not for Roy. The squad needs an overhaul and you need someone who could be here for a longer term to do it. No point giving it to Roy to reshape the squad, only for him to leave in a year and the new manager come in and want to move people on and shape the squad how he wants.

I wonder if hell see out the season, with an agreement that hell retire once its done and well start the process of replacing him now?

That makes no sense. You want Roy to start the transition because he's brought stability and has changed the way we play to the club with no investment. If you put 'better' ability players into that system then the football improves. We've seen that with RLC, Cabaye and Bats. So no getting rid of Roy is not the fix. Replacing most of the attack and large chunks of the midfield however is.
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I can't see much budget being available from income because we have so many overpaid players we can't shift. Who knows whether any extra investment can be raised from existing or new sources
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Spot on. Also turned down big money moves for a right back in Italy & a certain Russian striker. Thats before you mention Carrasco in January.

Im sorry a 73 year old manager should not have this much influence on our transfer strategy. Whether he goes this summer or next, Roy should work with players hes given. James McCarthy is a decent squad player for example but he pushed so hard for him. Why? What does he offer which the other midfielders dont?
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I think if that is the case he should maybe announce now that hes stepping down. Give the fans a little bit of a lift and buzz about new fresh start
Im not too fussed on when its announced tbh. But at least wed know the position if they go down that route. As long as it happens, that would be the main thing.
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That makes no sense. You want Roy to start the transition because he's brought stability and has changed the way we play to the club with no investment. If you put 'better' ability players into that system then the football improves. We've seen that with RLC, Cabaye and Bats. So no getting rid of Roy is not the fix. Replacing most of the attack and large chunks of the midfield however is.
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