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View Poll Results: Which best describes you?
Currently in Holmesdale Lower, if rail seats (ie standing) are installed I want to be in them 155 40.26%
Currently in Holmesdale Lower - would choose a seating area if back of lower became standing 32 8.31%
Currently NOT IN Holmesdale Lower but would love to move to rail seating (standing) 113 29.35%
Not in Lower tier, and no interest in being in any standing area 68 17.66%
MOO! 17 4.42%
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Old 29-01-2019, 06:06 PM
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If Palace did a full loser tied reset, then the cost of compensating the 400 currently being evicted from the stand could pay for hundreds of rail seats instead
Sadly, you just know that the club will screw up safe standing as badly as they have screwed up the E400 issue.

I still think that a full LH reset, where it is made clear that this is in anticipation of the implementation of safe standing in the next season or so would be the simplest way forward - kill two birds with one stone and avoid the need for compensation packages for those of us in E block.

But given the performance of the club over the singing section implementation, I sadly expect a similar hamfisted approach when (if) they ever get around to dealing with safe standing.
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Job done.

Lower Tier safe standing.

Can someone locate where Phil Alexander has hidden the spirit level so we can get going please.
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Old 29-01-2019, 06:33 PM
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Again, before things get out of hand with whole lower tier resets and what not the club would have to do a full survey on current/potential fans:

1. Currently in the LH and want to be in the safe standing area
2. Currently in the LH and do not want to be in the safe standing area
3. Not in the LH and want to be in the safe standing
4. Not in the LH and do not want to be in the safe standing area

I assume, that enough interest would be gathered to get the whole lower tier changed but, you do not want to spend the money and half arse the results.
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Old 29-01-2019, 06:34 PM
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Again, before things get out of hand with whole lower tier resets and what not the club would have to do a full survey on current/potential fans:

1. Currently in the LH and want to be in the safe standing area
2. Currently in the LH and do not want to be in the safe standing area
3. Not in the LH and want to be in the safe standing
4. Not in the LH and do not want to be in the safe standing area

I assume, that enough interest would be gathered to get the whole lower tier changed but, you do not want to spend the money and half arse the results.
A-E and some of F were standing on Sunday. The demand is there.
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Again, before things get out of hand with whole lower tier resets and what not the club would have to do a full survey on current/potential fans:

1. Currently in the LH and want to be in the safe standing area
2. Currently in the LH and do not want to be in the safe standing area
3. Not in the LH and want to be in the safe standing
4. Not in the LH and do not want to be in the safe standing area

I assume, that enough interest would be gathered to get the whole lower tier changed but, you do not want to spend the money and half arse the results.
Makes perfect sense to survey to identify demand. The options given are sensible but there may be a good deal of people that would prefer to sit/stand but aren’t actually hugely bothered either way - ie they would happily stand if that was the only option, rather than simply not attend. And vice versa.
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A-E and some of F were standing on Sunday. The demand is there.
Agreed. I don't particularly want to find myself in the middle of the HF but I have no problem at all with standing. I wouldn't be surprised if many existing LH season ticket owners are in the same boat.
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Old 29-01-2019, 07:44 PM
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We’ve got bigger problems then getting rail seating installed.
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It is legal NOW, the latest green guide reclassified rails in front of seated accomodation as legal. You just can't specifically advertise it as 'standing' area...

Palace could instal these now just as Wolves are planning to install 5000 this summer.
I can't see any announcement that Wolves are planning to install 5,000 rail seats in the summer?

The problem remains that the government may impose certain restrictions when they finally give the go ahead to safe standing. A figure of 10% of capacity has been floated which would mean we couldn't convert the whole of the LH.
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I can't see any announcement that Wolves are planning to install 5,000 rail seats in the summer?

The problem remains that the government may impose certain restrictions when they finally give the go ahead to safe standing. A figure of 10% of capacity has been floated which would mean we couldn't convert the whole of the LH.
As far as I can see the govt can't impose restrictions because it's not actual safe standing. It's "rails in front of seats" which the green guide has not just deemed legal it has deemed it recommended for safety reasons.

There's no legislation stopping people putting these in, you just can't legally call it a "standing area"
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Wolves are set to do it in the summer, allegedly in big numbers.

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Given that they haven't it just seems to be yet more bollocks from you.
You're a bit of an idiot aren't you? Politicians don't look at issues like this from a practical point of view, they will correlate the "increase in hooliganism" with standing/terracing, just like they did after Hillsborough. Not only that but the police will do the same and give this "intelligence" to the politicians involved.
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Sports Minister has just made a speech in the Commons mentioning standing and recent increases in racism, in the same breath.
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Andre Marriner was definitely standing when he first booked and then sent Wilf off
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Sports Minister has just made a speech in the Commons mentioning standing and recent increases in racism, in the same breath.
Presumably the Transport Minister will be making a similar announcement about racists standing on public transport.
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Good stuff, that makes 2 in the Prem.
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The seating at Spurs in Block 118 was a case of too many seats in the space provided as there is insufficient leg-room in between the rows of seating and your knees touch the metal rail behind the seat when seated.

This seems to me a case of increasing capacity to the detriment of supporter comfort by fitting in extra rows of seating.

I have been in contact with the FSA regarding this issue and await their response as this area was where Palace's non-wheelchair disabled fans were located.
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This would have interested me more years back but too old for it now. Certainly not against the idea though but that wasnt an option in the poll
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