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Old 18-04-2017, 03:08 PM
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Any news about the new site for the academy / training ground ?
I'd like to know too. More pressing than the ground redevelopment.
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Someone new has been brought in to the academy set-up. Haven't gotten round to writing it up yet but it's a good appointment and will help us in the search for Cat 1
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I've not seen anything on the Club's website about this. Has it been announced yet?
I don't think Palace will announce it. I'll write it soon.

Nothing new on academy site when I spoke to Gary Issott recently.
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I believe that I read somewhere that he would look at introducing the likes of Kaikai when we are safe. Win tomorrow and we may see some new blood over the coming weeks.
I don't see the logic of playing youth when we are safe. Spurs and Soton manage to play youth in the normal season as well as cup games. Soton have given plenty of games to Ward Prowse, Harrison Reed, Matt Targett, some to Josh Sims - none of which even had league experience on loan. They also started McQueen against us as well who has has only had 1 loan at Southend, unlike Stephens who has had plenty of loans.

People will say that games at the end of the season were not properly competitive games and therefore don't show whether you are ready. Similar to the vibe they say when they have impressed out on loan but they talk about the step up.

I'm very pro Big Sam but he didn't even give a start to KaiKai in the cup games etc!

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1/ Are the kids good enough at present?
2/ If so, will they make a difference to a game if used?
3/ The run in (opponents) has to be a factor as to why they're not used.
4/ Is there a place (positionally/tactically) on our bench for youth?

I'm all for giving kids a game, but circumstances have to be right. With the future of the club so reliant on the TV money, you'd have to think the more seasoned and experienced players are the best option.
Let's hope we are safe with a few games to go and a couple of the young ones can get a run out.
See the Pocc article. He thinks British talent is good enough. They just need an opportunity. I'd ask more, are they going to be any worse than Mutch, Lee, Ledley... even if short term better based on their work rate due to the opportunity they are getting. The emphasis is the wrong way around. Especially when in certain positions on the pitch.

Does Joe Ledley make a difference? Did Mutch on the left wing make more of a difference than KaiKai...? Why is the bar set higher for them. They are only likely to get better at their age unlike the likes of those like Mutch who have been given so many chances. I wish a few youth players were given the same time and faith.

Clubs have bigger benches now, which they pad out with journeymen no better than youth to avoid playing youth itself. With the bigger benches there is no excuse on this front. When you can find a place for Campbell and Mutch you can find out for a youth player. Maybe the new EPL rule is a great thing indeed!

It seems like every possible excuse/barrier is used to prevent youth being given a chance rather than the other way around.
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Interesting - thanks Woosie. I have no idea who he is but the words, Chelsea, England and forward go together nicely Hopefully even better now with the word Palace thrown in. COYP
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Also sounds like we have 18 months to get ready for a Cat 1 application. Glad its on the agenda.
Yes really interesting listening.

Parish said had we been in a better situation this season we definitely would've seen some of the kids involved. Some will be involved with the first team pre season. Sam wants to bring them into the side and has spoken to Parish about it at length. Looking at not blocking their pathway into the first team through our recruitment.
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Any update on this Woosie?
Haven't heard anything new on it. Will see if I can find out.

I'd be surprised if any of those three mentioned don't go out on loan. All are midfielders as well. Kirby the most highly regarded, and understandably so.
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