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Old 02-04-2017, 10:07 AM
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The congenital 'slagger-offers' on here are so fixed in their habits that they can't even control the reflex when the whole team perform brilliantly, they still have to find some 'scape-goat' to have a go at.
Sad.
It's always so black and white and full of vitriol. Yet they wonder why no-one wants to "debate" with them.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:14 AM
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Like yesterday??

Come on - 30mins playing in a back 6 hardly erodes all the terrible performances up to now.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:15 AM
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It's always so black and white and full of vitriol. Yet they wonder why no-one wants to "debate" with them.

No vitriol from me - quite the opposite.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:15 AM
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One of the worst players ever to play for us. Not his fault just so far out of his depth it's untrue. If we have to rely on him in the next 9 games we'll be relegated.
You cant have been watching Palace for long then!! cos over the years I have been watching there are many way worse players than Martin Kelly to have work the red & blue and before that the claret & blue
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:18 AM
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I'd say he was the third best right back we have and probably 5th best centre back. His passing and positioning has at times been a bit iffy as well.

He is however, an absolute proffessional and always gives 100% for the cause. I feel with the new coaching setup he will vastly improve things like positional awareness and decision making. He's not going to be played at left back again and can concentrate as becoming a decent backup in his preferred position within a tight defensive unit.

I like him.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:25 AM
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You cant have been watching Palace for long then!! cos over the years I have been watching there are many way worse players than Martin Kelly to have work the red & blue and before that the claret & blue
Well done for being old.

I'm 32 and have been going to Selhurst since I was 10 and he's one of the worst I can remember.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:26 AM
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No vitriol from me - quite the opposite.
So calling a player SHIT is not vitriol?? Must be nice living your polite little world !!

There are many players over the years that deserve abuse for lack of effort etc. but someone who always gives 100% and is very professional deserves more respect in my world regardless of ability or perceived ability.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:27 AM
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So calling a player SHIT is not vitriol?? Must be nice living your polite little world !!

There are many players over the years that deserve abuse for lack of effort etc. but someone who always gives 100% and is very professional deserves more respect in my world regardless of ability or perceived ability.
He's a Brighton fan. He's been outed.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:29 AM
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Come on - 30mins playing in a back 6 hardly erodes all the terrible performances up to now.
But it does show that when played to his strengths and not out of position, in a team playing with renewed confidence, he can be adequate back up - which is all we ask of him really.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:30 AM
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He's equally shit at right back. He's just a useless footballer at this level.
He is a centre back !!! And you are a doughnut!
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:31 AM
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Well done for being old.

I'm 32 and have been going to Selhurst since I was 10 and he's one of the worst I can remember.
LOLO thanks maybe one day if your lucky you will get there too

but seriously ... if you have been watching palace for 22 years .... you will have seen plenty of crap players ..... if not you want the name of my optician?
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Well done for being old.

I'm 32 and have been going to Selhurst since I was 10 and he's one of the worst I can remember.
Itzak zohar? That left back loanee we had.. amir or something along those lines.. he was quite literally a joke.. dorman... the list could go on

Dude there have been far far worse players than Kelly. He is a good squad player
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LOLO thanks maybe one day if your lucky you will get there too

but seriously ... if you have been watching palace for 22 years .... you will have seen plenty of crap players ..... if not you want the name of my optician?
I'm not saying I haven't seen plenty of crap players but Kelly falls within those for me.

I just want to say though that as pointed out by others, you can't fault his effort and I will always support him at the games.
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He is a centre back !!! And you are a doughnut!

He's never ever been a CB - not sure where you've got this nonsense from.
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So calling a player SHIT is not vitriol?? Must be nice living your polite little world !!



There are many players over the years that deserve abuse for lack of effort etc. but someone who always gives 100% and is very professional deserves more respect in my world regardless of ability or perceived ability.

I accept all of that but he's still shit. Why the reluctance to be honest.
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:42 AM
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I accept all of that but he's still shit. Why the reluctance to be honest.
He is being honest, because it's what he believes.
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I don't think so.
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I accept all of that but he's still shit. Why the reluctance to be honest.
I think it would be prudent to accept that what is being expressed is opinion, not fact. He has an honest opinion.

I accept you have an opinion. I do not agree with it.
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From what I saw under Pardew this season Kelly was no worse than Ward or Dann were, but he got more criticism as Dann had been class for the past two years and Ward was one of our promotion squad heroes. Just my take on it though.
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