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Old 02-04-2017, 11:59 AM
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Is Martin Kelly a right back? Was Thierry Henry a left sided winger?. Was Gareth Barry a left back? Players mature/adapt and Kelly is now best suited as a centre half.
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Is Martin Kelly a right back? Was Thierry Henry a left sided winger?. Was Gareth Barry a left back? Players mature/adapt and Kelly is now best suited as a centre half.
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He's never ever been a CB - not sure where you've got this nonsense from.
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:14 PM
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Is Martin Kelly a right back? Was Thierry Henry a left sided winger?. Was Gareth Barry a left back? Players mature/adapt and Kelly is now best suited as a centre half.

On the basis of 30mins hahaha. This is ridiculous.
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I'm afraid you've made a mistake. It happens but I suggest you don't make it worse for yourself by repeating it. Numpty.
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:22 PM
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He's never ever been a CB - not sure where you've got this nonsense from.
Liverpool and Kenny Dalglish identified Martin Kelly as a future Liverpool centre back and Dalgleish is on record as saying Liverpool in the past started players often first at fullback before moving them after gaining experience into the CB position.. before his injury England obviously rated him also!
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:26 PM
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Tbh, a lot of players seem to have benefitted in the change of coaches and this is the first time we have seen Kelly for weeks. I was surprised that he came on, but one thing SA does is instill confidence in his players and after the match he made it clear that both Kelly and Damo had his confidence and would probably start on Wednesday.
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On the basis of 30mins hahaha. This is ridiculous.
Refer post 136. Do a bit of research will ya?
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"Martin Ronald Kelly (born 27 April 1990) is an English footballer who played as a right-back or centre-back for Liverpool from 2007 to 2014." - from Liverpool wikia.
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"Martin Ronald Kelly (born 27 April 1990) is an English footballer who played as a right-back or centre-back for Liverpool from 2007 to 2014." - from Liverpool wikia.

Good source! Fml

Assume you didn't do A-Level history?
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I don't really understand where this obsession has come from with stating with such definitive fact that he's not good enough for this level? He may not be of a sufficient quality to start regularly but I've seen nothing from him aside from one fairly bad spell, out of position at left back under Pardew in an absolutely shambolic, bereft of any morale back four to suggest he's remotely out of his depth.

It's complete revisionism to start saying he's never been good enough and he's always been poor, I've seen the same sort of crap written about Ledley this season, rewriting all the previous good and solid work done before.

He's not had a great season by any stretch, but neither have a lot of other players we have. In 2014 and 2015, I don't ever remember there being much to complain about at all, he spent the majority of 2014/15 season at right back, did a reasonable job. And in 2015/16 he spent the majority as understudy to Pape and Ward.

I'd like to ask those saying he's not good enough, what are you basing this on aside from the one dodgy spell in a tattered defence, under a manager who had run out of ideas, and out of position? He is what he is, he'll never be a regular starter, but he's as dependable as they come, in at least two positions as a backup. Cut him some slack.
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He's never ever been a CB - not sure where you've got this nonsense from.

He was in England's Euro 2012 squad (!!) as a CB.
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I'm correct on Kelly just as I was in regard to Joe Ledley. Both not good enough and both need to be disposed of asap.
You sound like Shearer, deseperate to suggest you were right about this or that player. Well he is a twat.
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I think that since we have won 4 on the bounce he can't argue that were doomed anymore, so has to find something else to be contrary about.
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He was in England's Euro 2012 squad (!!) as a CB.

The point is he has done nothing to suggest he could be a PL CB. He was purchased as a RB and has been crap at RB (and of course LB).

Similar to Ward he certainly doesn't have the mobility or technical ability to play full back at this level. It would be great if he suddenly became a PL CB.
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You sound like Shearer, deseperate to suggest you were right about this or that player. Well he is a twat.

All I'm saying is that Kelly is not good enough to play PL football. I can't imagine any sane person arguing with that.
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I think that since we have won 4 on the bounce he can't argue that were doomed anymore, so has to find something else to be contrary about.

Absolutely delighted with the last 4 results. I made it clear that if we hadn't beaten Boro, WBA and Watford we'd have likely been relegated. I still think that was the case.

I also still think there's considerable work to do.
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All I'm saying is that Kelly is not good enough to play PL football. I can't imagine any sane person arguing with that.
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The point is he has done nothing to suggest he could be a PL CB. He was purchased as a RB and has been crap at RB (and of course LB).

Similar to Ward he certainly doesn't have the mobility or technical ability to play full back at this level. It would be great if he suddenly became a PL CB.
He was never signed to be a regular at centre back or right back, so this argument of he's done nothing to suggest he's a PL CB or RB, is a completely redundant point, does he do a job adequately when called upon? Yes, he does. Aside from one dodgy spell under Pardew in a tattered confidence bereft squad.

Stating Ward doesn't have the ability to play full back at this level, he's been playing there for the past 3/4 seasons to a decent standard in the main, as part of a pretty tight defence generally aside from under Pardew towards the end. Trying to be controversial doesn't make you right pal. He's not a technical player by any means but as a defender, much like Kelly, he does the job asked of him more often than not.
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