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Old 09-01-2019, 09:47 PM
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From playing Santa to CONKERS! How police chief who was under fire over Gatwick drone chaos has history of dodging tough questions (but is happy to pose for positive PR shots)

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Old 10-01-2019, 02:27 PM
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Old 18-02-2019, 06:30 AM
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Old 18-02-2019, 08:04 AM
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Old 16-04-2019, 09:34 AM
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Hello all. Sussex Police sent us a response to our second FOIA request. Just 412 days after we submitted it!

Here's what we've posted on FB and Twitter.

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You may remember we received the attached Decision Notice from the Information Commissioners Office in December 2018 relating to our request on Sussex Police's basis for alleging ticketless fans entered the stadium.

Somewhat predictably, Sussex Police didn't even respond to the ICO until threatened with legal proceedings for not responding even to the decision notice.

They replied yesterday. 412 days after our original FOIA request. 118 after the decision notice.

Despite alleging that a 'large number of fans may have entered the stadium without tickets' they:

a. Have made no arrests.
b. Have failed to identify any suspects.
c. Have received no reports of fans stopped without tickets.
d. Based the entire allegation on CCTV footage.

It’s clear that Sussex Police have made an egregious comment on the back of CCTV footage of a number of fans entering the stadium through an exit.

They were unable to substantiate the allegation. There was no reasonable suspicion.

This was an allegation that South Yorkshire Police also made against Liverpool fans at Hillsborough in the aftermath of 96 fans dying. It sets a dangerous precedent when a public body fabricates allegations based purely on CCTV footage.

Sussex Police must know how flimsy this basis was for allegation by fact they failed to answer these very simple questions for over a year.

So, in conclusion, there were no weapons found, nor was there ever conclusive proof that ticketless fans entered the stadium. Sussex Police haven't identified any of the people they claim were ticketless, and they subsequently haven't made any arrests.

We are still awaiting a substantial response to our request for an internal review (we expect an ICO Decision Notice to be published relating to this in due course), and in the meantime we'll have a think about any further steps we need to take.

However, we reaffirm our call for Chief Inspector Simon Nelson to face disciplinary proceedings and for @sussex_police to unequivocally admit that he lied when he made the statements in the immediate aftermath of the match.
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Old 16-04-2019, 10:01 AM
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Good work.

You’ve probably made yourself enemy No 1 in East Sussex.
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Old 16-04-2019, 10:06 AM
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Good work.

You’ve probably made yourself enemy No 1 in East Sussex.
Oh, I'm very aware of that! Good thing I'm a goody two shoes.
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Old 16-04-2019, 10:14 AM
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You’ve probably made yourself enemy No 1 in East Sussex.
Wooooo scary.

Seriously, well done RDS and everyone else involved in this.

Having seen last nights Panorama on the Gatwick drones 'Incident', Sussex constabulary do seem to suffer from both incompetence and an aversion to being held accountable.
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Old 16-04-2019, 10:15 AM
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I wasn’t there, but if I recall correctly those who were said the Palace fans who went through that exit had come from the queue to get in legitimately at the shut turnstiles (or should I say ‘turn styles’ ).

So the balance of probability is that they did have tickets on them, they just got cheesed off at being shut out and took a quick opportunity to get in the ground.
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Old 16-04-2019, 10:25 AM
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I wasn’t there, but if I recall correctly those who were said the Palace fans who went through that exit had come from the queue to get in legitimately at the shut turnstiles (or should I say ‘turn styles’ ).

So the balance of probability is that they did have tickets on them, they just got cheesed off at being shut out and took a quick opportunity to get in the ground.
The game had started and they had tickets .... If I was in that waiting queue they I would have gone through an open gate to gain entry ... It's an obvious response in such circumstances!
And very dangerous when the same thing happened at Hillsborough .... Another reason why they wish to hide their actions on the day.
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Old 16-04-2019, 10:42 AM
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Hello all. Sussex Police sent us a response to our second FOIA request. Just 412 days after we submitted it!



Here's what we've posted on FB and Twitter.

Great work from you lads. I wish I had taken my case further. Being kettled outside the ground for a whole half (with a ticket) and then marched to the station and sent home without seeing a second of the game, was scandalous. Best I got was my match ticket refund.

Did anyone go down the Amanda Jacks route and try and push it further?
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Great work from you lads. I wish I had taken my case further. Being kettled outside the ground for a whole half (with a ticket) and then marched to the station and sent home without seeing a second of the game, was scandalous. Best I got was my match ticket refund.

Did anyone go down the Amanda Jacks route and try and push it further?
i've been with her the whole way. The policing that night was atrocious - bullying and intimidating. Having been rounded up and held at the station we arrived late, then I had to deck a brighton **** who was going for my son. only to be kettled outside until the end of the game Sussex coppers are ***** with a capital C
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In December 2017 I made 2 FOI requests to Sussex Police seeking details about how their false claim came into the public domain and about their policing of the Brighton match in general. In June last year they refused to disclose the information. I asked them to review the decision on 3 July 2018. They did not reply and I complained to ICO on 1 September. SP purported to answer some questions on 13 March but continued to refuse to disclose the rest. Today ICO served them with a decision notice requiring them to disclose the rest within 35 calendar days. (SP sought to argue for an exemption based on the proposition that disclosure would harm their ability to investigate misconduct. To support this they argued that disclosure would enable criminals to target areas of vulnerability. Since this has nothing to do with investigating misconduct, it's not surprising that ICO didn't agree!) Given RDSdaEAGLE"s experience I'm not holding my breath for a prompt reply. But we'll keep chasing them.
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As others have said, excellent work by the people following this up.
As an aside, it looks like the 'apology' has now been removed from the Sussex police website, as the link on the opening post of this thread no longer takes you to their statement.
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