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Old 23-04-2019, 03:25 PM
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This season - and to a certain extent last - Hennessy has been much improved, I certainly wouldn't describe him as awful and I find the abuse of him OTT and unnecessary.

He is however still a below average premiership keeper, while to date Guita has been an above average keeper.

Is this not pretty much the ideal scenario you have a first choice above average keeper and a lower paid No.2 who is adequate if needs must and who can also pressure the No.1?

I agree with whoever (Woosie?) posted to say the entrenched positions have led to micro-analysis simply to point prove, and such over-analysis is both tedious and misses the bigger and largely positive picture.
Good post - as was Woosie's.
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Old 23-04-2019, 03:28 PM
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This season - and to a certain extent last - Hennessy has been much improved, I certainly wouldn't describe him as awful and I find the abuse of him OTT and unnecessary.

He is however still a below average premiership keeper, while to date Guita has been an above average keeper.

Is this not pretty much the ideal scenario you have a first choice above average keeper and a lower paid No.2 who is adequate if needs must and who can also pressure the No.1?

I agree with whoever (Woosie?) posted to say the entrenched positions have led to micro-analysis simply to point prove, and such over-analysis is both tedious and misses the bigger and largely positive picture.
Hennessey is adequate (just about) if he has an in-form Tomkins and Sakho in front of him. I worry for the team were he behind Dann and Kelly (as he has showed his greatest vulnerability when one of Sakho or Tomkins is not playing)

And I also think it is now fair to judge Hennessey as a representative of the club following his Nazi salute, denial thereof and then plea of ignorance. Having him at the club let alone on the bench every week is not an ideal scenario
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Old 23-04-2019, 03:52 PM
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And I also think it is now fair to judge Hennessey as a representative of the club following his Nazi salute, denial thereof and then plea of ignorance. Having him at the club let alone on the bench every week is not an ideal scenario
That is separate from his goalkeeping abilities.

I have no opinion on it, the whole thing is impossible to judge. Hennessy may be completely innocent of Nazism or he may be a card carrying fascist but I doubt either of those extremes are likely.

More likely it is either him messing around on a lads night out or possibly just a freak capture of him shouting out. In the case of the former I don't have a problem, unless it was specifically aimed at someone for being german or jewish, in the case of the latter there is no case.
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Old 23-04-2019, 06:18 PM
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It's a shame that the obsessive dislike for Hennessey has polarised views to the extent to which we now have this boring, incessant, unnecessary miniscule over-analysis of every single thing both goalkeepers do in every game, including when they concede. And that any attempt to suggest that Hennessey, whilst inferior to Guaita in more areas than not, is still not that bad, is met with derision.

Can't see how Guaita could have done better for either goal but there have certainly been times where Hennessey has been criticised for "being beaten at his near post."

Goalkeepers aren't infallible, who knew.
Personally I don't consider the analysis of the goalkeepers' performance to be any more boring than any of the other Palace related topics.
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Old 27-04-2019, 03:53 PM
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A great save to keep the clean sheet & win a point!
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Old 27-04-2019, 03:54 PM
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A great save to keep the clean sheet & win a point!
Great save. And there was a moment earlier where he came and claimed a high looping cross, going through Martin Kelly at the same time.
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Old 27-04-2019, 03:56 PM
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Well played again today v Everton. My MOM, but no real competition

Me to, I canít think of any of our other players more deserving of MOM.
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It is difficult to think of any player who did well apart from Guaita who deserves man of the match for the excellent save from Tosun and the rest of his game in which he was very good and practically faultless.
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Anyone who can’t see how much better he is than WH is truly thick as mince

Not just a bit better. On another level better
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Anyone who canít see how much better he is than WH is truly thick as mince
Thankfully the two main culprits have gone a bit quiet / been banned lately which helps.
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Anyone who canít see how much better he is than WH is truly thick as mince

Not just a bit better. On another level better
Thak Goodness for him today because without him we definitely lose that.
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Old 27-04-2019, 04:16 PM
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What a save.
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Thankfully the two main culprits have gone a bit quiet / been banned lately which helps.
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Well done Vince, another duck egg. I wonder what his Premier League GA / Clean sheet % is?
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Well done Vince, another duck egg. I wonder what his Premier League GA / Clean sheet % is?
17 games, 18 goals conceded, 8 clean sheets. So just shy of 1 in 2 clean sheets, would equal 18-19ish in a full season.

Hennessey 18 games, 26 conceded, 5 clean sheets.

Speroni obviously 1 game 4 conceded, 0 clean sheets.
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Fantastic keeper, I was watching in a bar in Malaysia and that save was insane
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Anyone who canít see how much better he is than WH is truly thick as mince

Not just a bit better. On another level better
Agreed unless it is Burnley away - beautifully managed by Roy
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