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Old 15-06-2019, 04:44 PM
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Has A1B stated he wants to leave? Where is it reported ?
More paper talk and agents looking for a payout in my eyes.
Look at all the crap in the papers about Zaha leaving has dried up.
If you interviewed any footballer that doesn’t play for a champions league club and asked the them if they’d like to move to a bigger club on a higher salary and test themselves against the best in the CL I’m sure they’d say yes. CL clubs actually wanting that player and willing to pay the transfer fee the current club requires is a different matter. Which is where it’s at with wilf I guess.

We know a fit wilf almost guarantees our PL survival. He’s a delightful player and (given his contract length and wages) quite rightly value him at £90 (or whatever) - a dum which other clubs may not want to pay. Although it will be interesting to see what happens if he tears up the African Cup...

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Old 15-06-2019, 05:44 PM
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As ever it's the case of if it's a story someone doesn't like then it's bollocks but if it's a good story, particularly a player coming in, then it's true and good news.

Also, just because something doesn't happen, doesn't mean it is a "lie" or the journalist made it up. Clubs can be interested in players and bid for them, but the deal can fall through or clubs can reject the offers. There is, astonishingly, a middle ground.

Finally, people realise they don't have to read these articles don't they?
Great post Matt and this is why we lost Clapham grand as a valued poster and source as some couldnít accept not all deals went through for a variety of reasons.
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Old 15-06-2019, 05:45 PM
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As ever it's the case of if it's a story someone doesn't like then it's bollocks but if it's a good story, particularly a player coming in, then it's true and good news.

Also, just because something doesn't happen, doesn't mean it is a "lie" or the journalist made it up. Clubs can be interested in players and bid for them, but the deal can fall through or clubs can reject the offers. There is, astonishingly, a middle ground.

Finally, people realise they don't have to read these articles don't they?
Well said Woosie, but the media is so powerful. Fake news in football seems to be taken as read all the time.
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Old 15-06-2019, 06:18 PM
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That's because the "asset stripping" hasn't happened yet. it's on the way. AWB out this summer, Wilf next summer..
Didnít you confidently predict that Wilf would go last summer?
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The delay could be because of the buy out of the Americans shares.
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Old 15-06-2019, 06:40 PM
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Old 15-06-2019, 07:05 PM
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Has A1B stated he wants to leave? Where is it reported ?
More paper talk and agents looking for a payout in my eyes.
Look at all the crap in the papers about Zaha leaving has dried up.
I really don't think Will Salthouse needs to use Aaron Wan-Bissaka to get a significant sum of money.

As an aside, curiously USM seem to be missing out on signing their targets in Palace's academy (but will probably just get them later on if they turn out to be good)
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Old 15-06-2019, 07:48 PM
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The delay could be because of the buy out of the Americans shares.
As well as negotiations to have Zahas sell on clause terminated by Man Utd.
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Old 15-06-2019, 07:58 PM
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Didn’t you confidently predict that Wilf would go last summer?
I think so. And that benteke would be the best purchase our club could ever make.

Edit. Wasn’t a bad shout. No one could have predicted his fall from grace.

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Old 15-06-2019, 08:16 PM
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Palace fans have been predicting this "asset stripping" from the American owners since the deal was done in 2015/16. And it's never happened - in fact we've upped our spending since then.
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Old 15-06-2019, 08:21 PM
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I read this as press feels talent should be at the biggest clubs so write an article with the agents help to either agitate fir or move or use as leverage to negotiate an improve contract

Neither Wilf or AWB seems to be banging down the door to leave, though I might be wrong.

These stories are filling column inches and providing click bait ad revenue right now.
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Old 15-06-2019, 08:25 PM
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I read this as press feels talent should be at the biggest clubs so write an article with the agents help to either agitate fir or move or use as leverage to negotiate an improve contract

Neither Wilf or AWB seems to be banging down the door to leave, though I might be wrong.

These stories are filling column inches and providing click bait ad revenue right now.
The AWB stories are largely true. United want him, we would sell at our value, he would go.

If they donít meet our valuation he doesnít go.. that simple really
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I fail to see how players choosing to leave is asset stripping. Players will be replaced and the money from sales will not be going into the owners pockets, which is what asset stripping is.
It isnít. He just likes the term, thinks itís sounds intelligent.
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Old 15-06-2019, 08:27 PM
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People don't understand who is reliable and who isn't. It's not about journalists lying, it's about the reliability of their sources. The suggestion that papers make up transfer rumours to get clicks is tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.

It's the same with people who are too stupid and/or lazy to find out the original source of a story. Pretty much anything anyone writes about Palace will be rehashed by several websites without being immediately apparent it's content-theft, which people will subsequently post and say "the Sun is saying x, y, z" when it's actually "reportedly" then you follow the link and it's some random website in another country reporting something that is totally different.

The reason is that people don't generally care where the information comes from, they believe it if it's good news and they are more sceptical when it's bad news, they don't generally look at where it's come from (except when they know it's from a Palace fan, but even then as you can see there are people questioning the veracity).

My point was not remotely lazy or over-simplified, this forum has many examples in the past of people calling stories they don't like bollocks and stories they do like they gleefully entertain. It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.

It's not about "circling the wagons" (an extremely lazy, pointless response in itself) it's about trying to educate people to understand how transfer stories actually work, but people don't want to hear it. I won't labour the point, it's really not worth it. Football fans get very tribal and don't like it when the club they support has their best players linked with moves away. That's fine, but it doesn't mean it isn't true or people are lying.
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I really don't think Will Salthouse needs to use Aaron Wan-Bissaka to get a significant sum of money.

As an aside, curiously USM seem to be missing out on signing their targets in Palace's academy (but will probably just get them later on if they turn out to be good)
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If he does go I wonder if that will strengthen Zaha`s resolve to leave ? ( as in seeing a fellow teammate got to a top 6 club .
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If he does go I wonder if that will strengthen Zaha`s resolve to leave ? ( as in seeing a fellow teammate got to a top 6 club .
Thatís the only worry selling AWB for me. Zaha will be asking Parish the question as to why canít he go? Though no club has shown of matching Zahaís value (whatever that is) as United have with AWB
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Thatís the only worry selling AWB for me. Zaha will be asking Parish the question as to why canít he go? Though no club has shown of matching Zahaís value (whatever that is) as United have with AWB
If AWB leaves and the money is invested in the squad, who knows what Wilf will think. Either way, AWB is at the u21 Finals and Wilf is off to the AFCON soon, so nothing may happen for a while.
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That’s the only worry selling AWB for me. Zaha will be asking Parish the question as to why can’t he go? Though no club has shown of matching Zaha’s value (whatever that is) as United have with AWB
You answered your own question straight after!
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If he does go I wonder if that will strengthen Zaha`s resolve to leave ? ( as in seeing a fellow teammate got to a top 6 club .
Club needs to get some money in to pay for the annual increase in Zahaís wages
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