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According to The New York Times, leaked UEFA documents show proposed Champions League reforms would turn it into a calcified SuperLeague.

UEFA have so far resisted the plans for a breakaway SuperLeague and offered to change the format of the existing Champions League in order to prevent those clubs creating a rival tournament.

However, the leaked proposals seem to suggest it’s not a world away from that ideal, cutting out most European clubs and with minimal risk of relegation.


“If approved, it would calcify the Champions League into a competition dominated by a small group of elite clubs, and leave as few as four of its 32 places available for teams from Europe’s 55 national leagues,” claims The New York Times.

“The new tournaments would, starting in 2024, allow the top 21 teams in a 32-team Champions League to qualify automatically for the next season’s event, effectively guaranteeing them annual participation and tens of millions of dollars more in broadcasting revenue than their domestic rivals.

“Those rivals would most likely be unable to match the rich clubs’ spending power, and would find it prohibitively difficult to play their way into the Champions League on the field.

“The biggest clubs, notably those from Spain and Italy, are pushing the proposals the hardest, according to people familiar with the discussions. They argue the changes are needed to provide more fiscal certainty year after year.

“UEFA has been in talks about proposals for months with the European Club Association, a group that is led by Juventus’s chairman, Andrea Agnelli, and that is driving the campaign for an elite competition.”

La Liga President Javier Tebas claimed after the UEFA presentation that they were being railroaded into a SuperLeague.

“We cannot accept that these are just plans and proposals for an open discussion with stakeholders about the future of professional football,” Tebas told The Times. “In reality, we were presented with a concrete project developed by UEFA in full cooperation with a small group of rich and powerful European clubs to reform European club competitions after 2024 in a format that could destroy domestic competitions and the sporting and financial sustainability of the vast majority of clubs in Europe.

“We are open for a constructive dialogue to reform European football together with other stakeholders, but if this is the project on the table, then the margins for negotiations are very limited."
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Old 10-05-2019, 03:26 PM
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This was on the radio yesterday morning. European clubs fully behind it as they want the premier league TV rights to be diverted away towards them by starting a mega franchise. They explained that English clubs are actually against it. Rules are there'll be something like 3 champions league leagues with relegation and promotion from them and a maximum of 5 teams from any one nation in each division. This suits Europe but not England due to the amount of big clubs here. Take the current top 6. Upto 5 will make it to the top league. If Arsenal for example get placed in the 2nd tier and win it, unless one of the other 5 get relegated Arsenal won't be allowed promotion. Leicester winning the premier league would not be allowed in the top tier either. They explained on the radio that European clubs have been trying to raise extra revenue to compete with the premier league but it's such a global beast worldwide no one is interested in the other leagues. This is there idea of trying to break it up and redistribute TV revenue to other European clubs. Will be interesting specially as it's reported the English clubs, including the big teams are not interested in this one bit.
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Usually the big teams are all over this, but low and behold someone wants their riches and now they aren't interested. Now they know how the rest of us feel.
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Usually the big teams are all over this, but low and behold someone wants their riches and now they aren't interested. Now they know how the rest of us feel.
That's the point though. In the recent 2019 Deloitte money list of the top 30 revenue clubs in the world, England has 13 representatives. That's just one short of Spain, France, Germany and Italy combined. Now you start to understand why they want to come up with this concept and break the premier league as the rest of the world are only really interested in watching the premier league.

We're actually 24th in that list. Yes Crystal Palace 24th biggest revenue club in the world. This new concept will not just hurt one of the big 6, it will hurt all English clubs outside of the top 6. It's no wonder that English teams are against this.

I suggest European structures look at themselves and understand how they can make their league more attractive to the worldwide audience rather than try and break the premier league. For the premier leagues faults, and there are many. They distribute the share as evenly and fairly as possible. This has resulted in clubs like ours being able to sign players of higher quality and go to places like Man City and win. This is what makes the premier league attractive to the worldwide audience. Its exciting. You then look at Spain for example and some ridiculous figure like 80% or around that figures goes to Barcelona or Madrid.
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UEFA to adopt American system?

The Champions League and Europa League could be divided into geographical zones from 2024.

Corriere della Sera reports UEFA presented the European Leagues its plans for reform two weeks ago, which would see its cup competitions mimic the model of American sports.

It is claimed the Champions League will be split into four groups of eight teams, with playoffs, playouts, the top six of each pool being assured of their place for the following season and only four sides able to qualify through national Leagues.

That would be followed by a 32-team Europa League 1 and a second Europa League with 64 sides.

Il Corriere writes the latter could be divided into geographical areas of North, South, East and West.

The teams who qualify from their regions will then compete in a knockout format to determine who is promoted.

The 2023-24 campaign will be key for Serie A sides as that is the last one which guarantees qualification based on domestic League placing.

That would almost certainly lead to games being played at weekends, which the European Leagues has long opposed.
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Aren't the Champions League viewing figures here pretty bad as well? I know I couldn't really give a **** most of the time about the champions league let alone the Europa Cup. That definitely wont change if they try and kill the rest of the game off with a super league.
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Usually the big teams are all over this, but low and behold someone wants their riches and now they aren't interested. Now they know how the rest of us feel.
Not sure what you mean here but Palace get tons of money on the back of the ‘big teams’.

If we negotiated our own TV deals we’d get way way less than we get at the moment.
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