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Old 29-10-2019, 01:26 PM
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Must be tricky for you to decide who to vote for........
Haven't seen the manifestos yet. 2 possibilities which will depend on what the various parties campaign on the basis of, both on Brexit and national issues.

I would reckon that in all the elections, local, national, EU over the last 22 years i have probably voted for a wider range of parties than you have.
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:26 PM
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You only give up your right to vote in your other country if that is required (as in EU elections)

You might well have the legal right to vote in national elections in two countries. Depends on the law in each country.
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:29 PM
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The Brexit Party will suck away a pile of the extremists. I Think this is what Labour are going to count on. And if the Tories go full no deal then they'll get dumped by their centrist voters. The Lib Dems chose a side because they are small enough for it to be a winner. Labour sit in the middle undecided because it minimises losses. The Tories are going to have to play a serious game of bullshit, I wouldn't be surprised to see them front up with it all being about schools and hospitals instead of leaving, the toe-rags.
This unfortunately is the one thing they are highly qualified to do.
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:30 PM
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Haven't seen the manifestos yet. 2 possibilities which will depend on what the various parties campaign on the basis of, both on Brexit and national issues.

I would reckon that in all the elections, local, national, EU over the last 22 years i have probably voted for a wider range of parties than you have.
I'd doubt that considering I've voted Lib Dem, Labour, Green and spoiled my ballot paper. in the past 4 votes, not in that order.

Between 2 you say? BP or Tories then. Tough choice to work out which one destroys the NHS fastest and is hardest on the most vulnerable in society.
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:31 PM
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They may be different from the usual marginals but there will still be certain seats that are most hotly contested - I thank goodness I'm not in one of them. Unless North Croydon residents completely lose their collective marbles. Croydon Central is a different matter entirely.
59% remain vote. You would usually expect a Labour win (a very safe seat) but if Brexit is the biggest issue it will be interesting to see how the vote holds up. Will almost certainly stay labour but i suspect their share and majority will take a fair hit. Danger in seats like that is that Labour supporters think it is such a safe seat that them not voting to support the position or voting with the Lib Dems or Tories won't matter. (That goes for all safe seats where people think a protest vote won't make a difference)
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It will be a Tory landslide. Then in 5 years time on some BBC daytime programme,

"I really wanted Brexit and really trusted the Tories with their management of the economy, but now I can't afford to feed my disabled son or myself because of austerity cuts and Brexit ruining the economy. I'll be voting Farage this time because an investment banker turned career politician and multi millionaire really gets my plight."
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:32 PM
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I'd doubt that considering I've voted Lib Dem, Labour, Green and spoiled my ballot paper. in the past 4 votes, not in that order.

Between 2 you say? BP or Tories then. Tough choice to work out which one destroys the NHS fastest and is hardest on the most vulnerable in society.
Already on 5 so keep trying. Oh and never spoilt a ballot.

Oh and once again anti-addick is wrong - there's a surprise.
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:40 PM
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I predict it will go along similar lines as last time with in most England & wales constituencies Leave go Tory, Remain go Labour

We might get a different result if either Brexit Party eats into Leave votes or Lib Dems eat into Remain votes. Either of which will let the other side in!
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:41 PM
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Ex Tory Lib Dems:

Chuka - giving up his seat to contest one with a high remain vote
Gymiah - giving up his seat to contest one with a high remain vote
Allen - Not contesting any seat at the election

All eyes on Lee and Woolaston to see if they will contest their own seats.

Other parties tried to make a lot of Boris maybe going for a safer seat than contesting Uxbridge again but the Lib Dems leading the way in seat changing at present.

Wonder if there are some Tories hoping Johnson's charisma and appeal with the public will help them win votes across the country whilst failing to won his own seat?

Lee is supposedly going against Redwood - arch leaver in a strong remain seat.
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I predict it will go along similar lines as last time with in most England & wales constituencies Leave go Tory, Remain go Labour

We might get a different result if either Brexit Party eats into Leave votes or Lib Dems eat into Remain votes. Either of which will let the other side in!
Yup i think you have covered all bases there
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:45 PM
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The simple answer anyone but Corbyn and Labour I have made my views on the racism within Labour and why for that alone there is no way I will vote for them.
Seat I live in is a Tory safe seat and with some reversations will vote Lib Dem.
As for the rest Labour is facing a far more competent electioneer in Johnson and highly unlikely to shoot himself in the foot on Social Care Costs. However I have no doubt though there will be a few stories to come out in the press that could de-rail him. Certainly there will be more on the racism in Labour the ones on certain candidates is just a start.
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:46 PM
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Lee is supposedly going against Redwood - arch leaver in a strong remain seat.
Woolaston apparently due to contest Totnes so the only 1 of the 5 to try to contest their own seat.

Redwood has a decent majority and Lee will probably split the remain vote with Labour. Will be interesting to see if he loses his seat.
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Old 29-10-2019, 01:49 PM
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Bercow has just opened the door to staying on, says if the house asks him to stay through to the election he would consider it.
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Ex Tory Lib Dems:

Chuka - giving up his seat to contest one with a high remain vote
Gymiah - giving up his seat to contest one with a high remain vote
Allen - Not contesting any seat at the election

All eyes on Lee and Woolaston to see if they will contest their own seats.

Other parties tried to make a lot of Boris maybe going for a safer seat than contesting Uxbridge again but the Lib Dems leading the way in seat changing at present.

Wonder if there are some Tories hoping Johnson's charisma and appeal with the public will help them win votes across the country whilst failing to won his own seat?
If Boris is worried about this he should contest his brother's old seat. Rock solid Conservative since 1970 and a leave seat.
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If Boris is worried about this he should contest his brother's old seat. Rock solid Conservative since 1970 and a leave seat.
It was not so long ago Orpington was extremely marginal (2001 I think got very close with LDs). Now it's almost Sevenoaks levels of baby-boom Tories.
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If Boris is worried about this he should contest his brother's old seat. Rock solid Conservative since 1970 and a leave seat.
He has a majority in his own seat, over 50% of the vote last time and it too was a leave voting constituency. He should be able to hold it or he will have trouble doing so in other seats too.
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It was not so long ago Orpington was extremely marginal (2001 I think got very close with LDs). Now it's almost Sevenoaks levels of baby-boom Tories.
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I'm a sort of soft Tory and will 100% back Boris Johnson over having Corbyn in charge. I would back near enough anyone over that communist twat.
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I'm a sort of soft Tory and will 100% back Boris Johnson over having Corbyn in charge. I would back near enough anyone over that communist twat.
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