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Old 04-12-2019, 04:46 PM
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I'm cool with him kicking 3-4 into touch in a match if he keeps making these important saves.

He's settled in to the team now, and it's nice not having a panic over who is in goal next week because he's automatic first choice (sorry Wayne)
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Old 04-12-2019, 04:51 PM
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Wayne Hennessey found touch more than Owen Farrell.

Guaita has spent the most of his time trying to hit Ayew, Wilf, Townsend or Michy - none of which are target men. If he plays it long, chances are the opposing centre halves are winning it in the air. Hennessey has had Benteke or Wickham to hit during his disastrous spell as 1st choice - just a bit of a difference.
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Wayne has barely played this season. His highest passing percentage when he has played a significant amount of games in a season is 47.2%.

Lots of factors in a GK's passing percentage, including whether players win headers from long balls and the team's style. If you look back on Guaita's history, he had some pretty high passing stats at Valencia, then much lower at Getafe which continued at Palace.

My general impression is that Guaita's kicking is pretty solid and his throwing, especially quick throws is as good as I've seen from a Palace keeper (no idea whether throws are included in the passing stat btw).

By the way, Nick Pope's 37.6% this season.

Last season when they played almost half a season each Hennessey was again ahead. All i am saying is firstly that his kicking has room for improvement but also that the way we play doesn't help him. If you knock the ball back to him with time and space he can often find a decent pass. When we play 3 or 4 passes slowing getting deeper it puts him under pressure and when we go long we rarely win the ball.

There were a couple of occasions even yesterday where he played a clipped pass out to the likes of Townsend which show he has ability we just need to stop putting him under pressure and/or provide a target up top to win the ball.
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Yeah. Guaita is good, but if a top european club is gonna sign a first choice keeper of his age, they need to be one more level above.
? He was the 4th or 5th best shot stopper in Spain the season he left. He was 4th or 5th last season in his first year with us. He's joint second this year. Based on his stats for the last 2.5 seasons he is a top end Europa league maybe bottom end Champions league GK.
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? He was the 4th or 5th best shot stopper in Spain the season he left. He was 4th or 5th last season in his first year with us. He's joint second this year. Based on his stats for the last 2.5 seasons he is a top end Europa league maybe bottom end Champions league GK.
He’d be starting at a much better team than Palace if that was the case. Same deal with Fabianski really, if they were both 5 years younger, they’d probably be starters for big clubs.
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I would also keep in mind that it’s easier be a keeper at teams like Getafe and Palace with very disciplined defences that throw bodies on the line.
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Hed be starting at a much better team than Palace if that was the case. Same deal with Fabianski really, if they were both 5 years younger, theyd probably be starters for big clubs.
I usually see what you mean about players, but I do think Guaita is among the best five goalies in the Premier League, which makes r&b m correct.
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I usually see what you mean about players, but I do think Guaita is among the best five goalies in the Premier League, which makes r&b m correct.
De Gea, Ederson, Allison, Leno, Lloris better for me, Guaita in a tier just below with Fabianski and Patricio.

He could start for a team like Sevilla or something that are in and out of the champions league and not exactly a ‘top European club.’ I think that’s a flaw in this debate, we haven’t really specified what the parameters for ‘top European club’ are.
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Well yes, that’s his level, he’s not replacing Oblak, but he’s a step up for Palace, he belongs in a team that’s in the European places in the big European leagues. If all our team were as good as him, we’d be Arsenal, Leicester level.
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Becoming very impressed with his handling. We have known for a while that he's a good shot-stopper. But his work with Kiely is obviously paying off because he is dominating his six yard box. I really like him. Best keeper we've had since Martyn imho. Distribution is terrible but as others have said he doesn't have much to hit. At least we are not trying to play it out from the back.
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I would also keep in mind that its easier be a keeper at teams like Getafe and Palace with very disciplined defences that throw bodies on the line.
Does that account for his shot stopping ?
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Becoming very impressed with his handling. We have known for a while that he's a good shot-stopper. But his work with Kiely is obviously paying off because he is dominating his six yard box. I really like him. Best keeper we've had since Martyn imho. Distribution is terrible but as others have said he doesn't have much to hit. At least we are not trying to play it out from the back.
His handling has always been good though. I think he took a while to bed in and perhaps get used to the speed of the game here. Spanish football is very stop, start. But he is clearly one of the first names on the team sheet now and someone we can build a team around.

He really should have had at least a Spanish cap to his name (I believe he has had call ups before but never played), he was just unfortunate to be around at a time when Spain dominated football with Casillas, Reina and Valdes as their three keepers and then De Gea developed into a reasonably competent keeper.
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His handling has always been good though. I think he took a while to bed in and perhaps get used to the speed of the game here. Spanish football is very stop, start. But he is clearly one of the first names on the team sheet now and someone we can build a team around.

He really should have had at least a Spanish cap to his name (I believe he has had call ups before but never played), he was just unfortunate to be around at a time when Spain dominated football with Casillas, Reina and Valdes as their three keepers and then De Gea developed into a reasonably competent keeper.
The bit of his game that seems to have noticeably changed is handling crosses etc. He pretty much punched everything on arrival and TBH the punches weren't great. He looked very unsure about when he should come for the cross or not. That whole aerial side of his game has improved since his first game. His shot stopping was always there I think and general handling. The other bit of his game that seems to be improving but is still WIP is with the ball at his feet/kicking. Noticeable improvement during the past month but doesn't look that comfortable with the ball in open play and that invites the forward to pressurise him. But his overall game is already right up there in terms of impact and its a joy to think he is always in with a chance of saving it. .
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He likes to distribute short and play on the ground. That's the way they teach goalies in Spain.
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He was an absolute star at the Crystal Palace Supporters Children's Charity Christmas Party last night, including insisting on drawing the raffle prizes (by which stage the players' 'duties' for the night had been completed).

(For balance, I should say Wayne Hennessey was also great. And Stephen Henderson, too, once I'd worked out who he was.)
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He was an absolute star at the Crystal Palace Supporters Children's Charity Christmas Party last night, including insisting on drawing the raffle prizes (by which stage the players' 'duties' for the night had been completed).

(For balance, I should say Wayne Hennessey was also great. And Stephen Henderson, too, once I'd worked out who he was.)
I just saw a tweet of him dancing with Alice the eagle
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He has that craziness about him which, I don’t care what anyone says, you have to have to be a top class goalie.
He also has very strong hands and wrists when he is performing a save with an outstretched arm. This has been evident in the past two games. Once he has a hand on it, it is like the ball has hit a wall.
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