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Watching the matches of Euro 2008 unfold from our living rooms in North America and the UK, we probably should be forgiven for assuming that the crowds are made up of fun-loving supporters wearing interesting headgear and body paint. But this is the face of Euro 2008 that UEFA wishes us to see. The other face - that of violent supporters in the stands - has been carefully edited from television broadcasts.

An interesting question here, raised by Swiss journalists at World Radio Switzerland. Should UEFA continue to censor broadcasts of matches from Euro 2008? What do you think? Do pictures of fan violence only serve to give a platform to troublemakers? Or are viewers being denied the full picture?

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Does UEFA censor the images TV viewers see during the Euro 2008 championships? TV channels around Europe use a centralized video feed provided by UEFA, the organizer of the games. But there’s been a bit of debate about what gets shown and what doesn’t.

The whole issue might not have come up if Federal Cabinet Minister Samuel Schmid hadn’t mentioned the “smoke bombs” to Swiss German television.

It just was after Sunday’s match in Vienna. He said he preferred the match the day before, because fans hadn’t set off smoke bombs. In fact, a significant portion of the stadium in Vienna was covered with smoke.

But that would have been news to TV viewers. Only a few wisps made it onto the telecast.

Did UEFA censor the images of fans behaving badly?

Pascale Voegeli is a spokeswoman for UEFA. “There are images we prefer not to show. If there are riots from some few people in the stands, there is no reason to give those people a platform on TV. So that’s why the producers they decide not to show some images.”

It’s common for stations airing sports championships to use the feeds provided by the organizers.

The producers behind the UEFA telecast deploy dozens of cameras around the stadium to get all the angles. Stations say they couldn’t each match that. And even if they could you’d run out of places to put the cameras.

But at the same time UEFA controls the video feed, they also have a lot invested in making sure EURO 2008 doesn’t look like a fiasco.

Doesn’t that raise ethical questions about paying to use their telecast?

I put that question to François Jeannet. He’s the head of sports at French-language public television, TSR. “If the real facts were for some reason to be hidden, then we would have a problem. But I don’t think we’re going that far.”

Jeannet says they have their own commentators in the stadium. And if UEFA were hiding anything significant, it would be apparent.

But he says the producers are right not to focus on disturbances in the stadium. Jeannet says most TV sports producers, including TSR, follow similar policies.

“There are some guidelines when you produce a sport event that say that you try not to emphasize or to bring publicity to agitators because you don’t want to make publicity for those actions on the field.”


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For once I am for 'censorship'.

I was at a game some years ago where a fight broke out among supporters. There was a crowd of about 40,000 and the punch-up was between a few hundred. The cameras zoomed in on it and it gave the impression that the whole ground was in uproar, truth is, I didn't even know it had happened until I got home and saw it on television.

My mum was beside herself with worry until I got home (pre mobile phone days) and begged me not to go to any more games, it was impossible to convince her that football was ok.

I really don't see the point in showing it, keep it away from our screens and deal with it properly through the courts etc., then it is much more likely to go away, in my opinion.
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On the one hand you have news censorship which effectively means the truth is not being shown. On the other hand you have sensationalism that blows the whole thing out of proportion.
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Increasingly the case - TV channels choose not to show off the field incidents, streakers, numb nuts running on the pitch etc etc - stops them having their moment in the sun and hopefully will stop them doing it again.

However - there was a different angle in the French GP on Sunday. Hamilton was having to come through the field after his penalty for Canada, he overtook Vettel and AFTER doing do, ran wide onto kerbing and run off areas before getting back on the track. Subsequently, he was given yet another penalty for gaining a place by cutting out a piece of the track - which appeared harsh at best. The issue is that the TV feed - operated by the FIA under Bernie's control - never provided an aerial shot of the incident or external view to the TV coverage like ITV, only showing in car where you couldn't tell whether any advantage was gained or not. Clearly a case of the FIA/Stewards not wanting their decision discussed in the media after the Canada penalty and also the ludicrous penalty for Kovaleinen for "blocking" - they may well not have an "agenda" with McLaren, but not allowing TV coverage of a key incident in the race (without the penalty Hamilton would almost certainly have been in the points come the end) only lays them open to conspiracy theories.
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Don't be daft, everyone knows that only England has hooligans. Fans from other countries may have fans that get a bit boisterous and over excited, but all hooligans come from the UK.
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Increasingly the case - TV channels choose not to show off the field incidents, streakers, numb nuts running on the pitch etc etc - stops them having their moment in the sun and hopefully will stop them doing it again.

However - there was a different angle in the French GP on Sunday. Hamilton was having to come through the field after his penalty for Canada, he overtook Vettel and AFTER doing do, ran wide onto kerbing and run off areas before getting back on the track. Subsequently, he was given yet another penalty for gaining a place by cutting out a piece of the track - which appeared harsh at best. The issue is that the TV feed - operated by the FIA under Bernie's control - never provided an aerial shot of the incident or external view to the TV coverage like ITV, only showing in car where you couldn't tell whether any advantage was gained or not. Clearly a case of the FIA/Stewards not wanting their decision discussed in the media after the Canada penalty and also the ludicrous penalty for Kovaleinen for "blocking" - they may well not have an "agenda" with McLaren, but not allowing TV coverage of a key incident in the race (without the penalty Hamilton would almost certainly have been in the points come the end) only lays them open to conspiracy theories.
He clearly gained an advantage by mising the chicane, if he hadnt he couldnt possibly have made the corner.
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Don't be daft, everyone knows that only England has hooligans. Fans from other countries may have fans that get a bit boisterous and over excited, but all hooligans come from the UK.
Agreed

Had the trouble between Poland/Germany or Croatia/Turkey involved England we would have likely been basnned from the next tournament and it would have been headline news for days on end
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He clearly gained an advantage by mising the chicane, if he hadnt he couldnt possibly have made the corner.
Not the case - the chicane was AFTER the pass had been made - see directly quotes below.....

Q. Before taking his penalty, was Lewis asked over the radio to drop back and cede the position back to Vettel?

MW: We weren't aware that the incident was questionable until a number of laps later when it was displayed on our monitors that Car 22 was under investigation. At that point, we asked the FIA for a clarification and were informed of the incident at Turn Seven. When the footage was replayed, it looked to us as if Lewis was comfortably past the other car before he straightlined the chicane.

We expressed our opinion to the FIA but, by that point it was not possible to ask Lewis to drop back and relinquish the position. If somebody had told us about it at the time, we would have asked the race director if he wanted us to give the place back. In the cockpit, Lewis felt he was already ahead when he made the mistake and didn't feel it was an issue to raise with the team.


The regs state that if you pass a car by missing part of the track you have to cede the position - in this case the track was missed after the pass was made. Taking this to its logical conclusion if you over-run the track after diving down the inside of someone and miss a section of track 200m further down the road as you have too much speed you have to allow them to re-pass? Either way, if the FIA was SO sure of its case, why was the overhead footage not shown at the time?
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Not the case - the chicane was AFTER the pass had been made - see directly quotes below.....

Yes it was so, he made his pass but only kept the position by missing the chicane

I am fullyaware the chicane was after he had passed Vettel, however the pass put him off line and it would not have been possible for him to make the chicane and retain his position, inded had he done so the likely outcome would have been to take himself and Vettel out of the race.
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Living in Bermuda for 3 years I was subject to US TV. You probably got the propagandistic cutting of the Poland / Austria and Poland / Germany game where you missed out on Polands 8 goals in each match.
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Yes it was so, he made his pass but only kept the position by missing the chicane
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Don't be daft, everyone knows that only England has hooligans. Fans from other countries may have fans that get a bit boisterous and over excited, but all hooligans come from the UK.
True. That's why it's called the engerlish disease.
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Agreed

Had the trouble between Poland/Germany or Croatia/Turkey involved England we would have likely been basnned from the next tournament and it would have been headline news for days on end
just a few kids having fun. Plus all those stabbings were just a bit of over exuberance. . The racism that you get in Europe has been stamped on with fines well over 9000 euros.

The real problems are those dodgy English. If only they could be like the fun loving Scots.
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Had the trouble between Poland/Germany or Croatia/Turkey involved England we would have likely been basnned from the next tournament and it would have been headline news for days on end
Sorry, but no.

The trouble at the WC2006 between Poland/Germany was headline news for days in Germany, there were over 900 arrests made.

I don't think it's 'likely' that England (or anyone else) would have been banned - playing qualifying games behind closed doors seems to be the extent of UEFA's punishment these days (and a lot of harm that did the Turks!).

England didn't get banned in 1992, 1990, 1998 or 2000 - all of which saw England fans involved in widely reported (some might say over-exagerrated) acts of hooliganism - but even then nowhere close to 900 arrests. Neither were the Dutch or Germans in France 1998, when a French Policeman was killed as a result of fighting at a game.
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Watching the matches of Euro 2008 unfold from our living rooms in North America and the UK, we probably should be forgiven for assuming that the crowds are made up of fun-loving supporters wearing interesting headgear and body paint. But this is the face of Euro 2008 that UEFA wishes us to see. The other face - that of violent supporters in the stands - has been carefully edited from television broadcasts.

An interesting question here, raised by Swiss journalists at World Radio Switzerland. Should UEFA continue to censor broadcasts of matches from Euro 2008? What do you think? Do pictures of fan violence only serve to give a platform to troublemakers? Or are viewers being denied the full picture?

From World Radio Switzerland:

Does UEFA censor the images TV viewers see during the Euro 2008 championships? TV channels around Europe use a centralized video feed provided by UEFA, the organizer of the games. But there’s been a bit of debate about what gets shown and what doesn’t.

The whole issue might not have come up if Federal Cabinet Minister Samuel Schmid hadn’t mentioned the “smoke bombs” to Swiss German television.

It just was after Sunday’s match in Vienna. He said he preferred the match the day before, because fans hadn’t set off smoke bombs. In fact, a significant portion of the stadium in Vienna was covered with smoke.

But that would have been news to TV viewers. Only a few wisps made it onto the telecast.

Did UEFA censor the images of fans behaving badly?

Pascale Voegeli is a spokeswoman for UEFA. “There are images we prefer not to show. If there are riots from some few people in the stands, there is no reason to give those people a platform on TV. So that’s why the producers they decide not to show some images.”

It’s common for stations airing sports championships to use the feeds provided by the organizers.

The producers behind the UEFA telecast deploy dozens of cameras around the stadium to get all the angles. Stations say they couldn’t each match that. And even if they could you’d run out of places to put the cameras.

But at the same time UEFA controls the video feed, they also have a lot invested in making sure EURO 2008 doesn’t look like a fiasco.

Doesn’t that raise ethical questions about paying to use their telecast?

I put that question to François Jeannet. He’s the head of sports at French-language public television, TSR. “If the real facts were for some reason to be hidden, then we would have a problem. But I don’t think we’re going that far.”

Jeannet says they have their own commentators in the stadium. And if UEFA were hiding anything significant, it would be apparent.

But he says the producers are right not to focus on disturbances in the stadium. Jeannet says most TV sports producers, including TSR, follow similar policies.

“There are some guidelines when you produce a sport event that say that you try not to emphasize or to bring publicity to agitators because you don’t want to make publicity for those actions on the field.”


isn't it time for everyone to wake up and realise there are better fans than those dressed as hotdogs
What are World Radio Switzerland? All of the Euro football is political rubbish.
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For once I am for 'censorship'.

I was at a game some years ago where a fight broke out among supporters. There was a crowd of about 40,000 and the punch-up was between a few hundred. The cameras zoomed in on it and it gave the impression that the whole ground was in uproar, truth is, I didn't even know it had happened until I got home and saw it on television.

My mum was beside herself with worry until I got home (pre mobile phone days) and begged me not to go to any more games, it was impossible to convince her that football was ok.

I really don't see the point in showing it, keep it away from our screens and deal with it properly through the courts etc., then it is much more likely to go away, in my opinion.
I think you should be banned, suggesting that violence is encouraged by television reports, where on earth did you get that idea!
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