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You go back to supporting your US backed Stalinist YPG though eh. And your fascist yellow jackets. |
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It’s both.
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US and Israel were both more than happy with ISIS in the early days as they kept Assad and Iran occupied. Notice how many times ISIS have targetted Israel for attack? NEVER. They instead attacked Hammas, Israel's sworn enemy! When will the penny drop?
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No, there's no doubt in my mind and the mind of the many many Venezuelans that I speak to, that whatever the change, Maduro has to go.
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The YPG, your Stalinist mates, were happy to lash up with genocidal Assad and have US army bases and airbases all over their territory. |
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Maduro has to go but not by a US backed coup. |
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I'm not sure those of us who are talking about the oil see that as the overriding issue, but it is an issue. The US certainly see it as an energy security concern and economic imperative. Maduro is a fruitcake and needs to be ousted, but it's a sensitive process that needs to avoid civil war, which is a very real danger. Venezuela should be one of the wealthiest societies in South America, and the oil revenue needs to benefit the people. Sadly, I doubt that will ever be the case. I too have a lot of dealings with South American countries - mainly Chile, and Brazil, but also Venezuela. The reports I have been receiving are very scary. It needs to be recognised as a failed state - but the likes of Corbyn and Livingstone will never admit they are wrong, because it undermines their entire ideology. I saw this happen with the Communist Party in the UK in the 70's, because there were those who insisted that Stalin was a lovely man, despite all the contrary evidence. Not everyone on the left is blind to the reality and the dangers of ideological positions.
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I do not agree in any way with the politics of Bolsonaro, but there's a long way to go before people are getting thrown out of helicopters.
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He has the army, they are on the gravy train a civil war will go only one way. Whether the US back a coup or invade is interesting as Trump nears the end of his presidency and starts to campaign for second term an invasion will be very tempting. It should be easy to tip the balance there. |
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But neither oil nor the US have been the driving force on the demand for free and fair elections. It's the Lima Group countries who have been doing the heavy lifting on this, and many of their members who have been bearing the brunt of the humanitarian crisis. They've been pressuring the US to act not because they want Venezuelan oil but because they want the restoration of democracy in Venezuela. Colombia, having reached a hard won peace with Farc, is now suffering car bombings they thought were over as the far less significant but more ideological Marxist ELN have gone on the attack. Guess which neighbouring country is supporting the ELN and sheltering their leaders? Given that they are supporting hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans, and they're getting attacked by terrorists funded by Maduro, it's no wonder the Colombians want him gone. And it's just a bit shit when people who couldn't give a shit about the region (not you) come out with lazy "yeah it's all about oil like Iraq" because it's a convenient fit for their worldview |
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The YPG were fighting for their existence and would understandably take any help they could get. Perhaps they couldn't afford the luxury of your PC life-choices.
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We shall see. He is a fascist.
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Firstly who is they? I hope you aren’t conflating the YPG with all Kurds, that would be a tad wrong. Secondly Assad was carrying out mass slaughter and rape across the country backed by Russian imperialist carpet bombing and Islamist militias from Hezbollah and Iran. The YPG chose to side with Assad against the FSA, the only democratic force. They then got the US to put bases all over their territory. There were choices and they made vary reactionary ones. You comment on all kinds of things on here. You probably do very little in real life to back it all up. Given you also back far right yellow jackets you are also probably a right wing troll. |
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Yes, I'm sorry but nobody appears to have addressed the reason Trump etc want Guadido. Its f all to do with democracy and everything to do with Russia's (and China's) support for Maduro.
Heb and Adlers can bang on about democracy all they like. That isn't what this is about.
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I probably have more experience of Chinese international expansion on here than anyone, and if blocking that were Trump’s sole reason for whatever he is doing then totally totally fine with me. China’s expansion is about subservience. And I am sure people will say what’s the difference between subservience to China and subservience to nasty Americans or multinationals but it is an entirely different game.
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Still not about democracy is it?
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Go and write down eveyone you've wrapped up in that. Then look at their individual positions on Maduro and what they've been doing re Venezuela since it descended into dictatorship. Then come back here with your cod theories about how everyone is just following Trump because of China and Russia. |
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In the early days the Chavistas seized the oil assets of western majors in the country so you cannot blame people for imposing sanctions - Exxon, Repsol etc. Probably these days the US is concerned about oil but from the other way round. There is a surplus in the western hemisphere right now and they are probably happy that millions of extra barrels a day don't flood the market ruining the viability of shale.
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