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I arrived as a fan just after Malcolm left. A few questions to those around at the time:

Read somewhere that he resigned at the end of 75/76 as he was drained and disheartened after the semi final defeat. Is this true? Were there other reasons people heard about/suspected? As supporters, was it a shock and what was the feeling about Venners taking over? Were there other names in the frame?
Venables said he was already transitioning into the role before the 75/76 season had concluded. Mainly due to above reasons and the excesses of his lifestyle.
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I arrived as a fan just after Malcolm left. A few questions to those around at the time:

Read somewhere that he resigned at the end of 75/76 as he was drained and disheartened after the semi final defeat. Is this true? Were there other reasons people heard about/suspected? As supporters, was it a shock and what was the feeling about Venners taking over? Were there other names in the frame?
He didnít agree with the signing of George Graham, they had a personal issue, thatís why he resigned.
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Still love the man - some of the best times supporting Palace, even if we were in the 3rd division.
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For fans like myself who saw the "Big Mal" effect first hand at Palace, ok some bad publicity but that was done as part of a ploy to bring the club to the media/public forefront, but also so much good aswell on the playing front that he will always be remembered as a major part of our clubs history.
He gave CPFC a club who were on its knees into becoming a club with an identity again along with the publicity to see it reborn not just On the pitch but Off it aswell, his antics made most Palace fans start to smile and feel proud again. The vision and ideas of the man was so far ahead of all others around him and lets not forget this was nearly Half a Century ago, bringing in John Cartwright arguebaly the finest Youth player developer ever to the club was a masterstroke, as was having the vision in promoting Terry Venables into coaching/management amongst many other achievements.
But as a club without financial clout to carry out the visions of someone like Big Mal made it inevitable that at some stage it would go pear shape sooner or later, but when looking back on our clubs past we need to embrace the Malcolm Allison era with a smile, and remember the great man for what he brought to CPFC at a difficult time.
And then following on to a lesser extent but with his incredible achievements the other great man in our history the one and only Steve Coppell, But we must never forget the superb job Roy Hodgson is doing currently under incredibily difficuly circumstances and this at the very Highest level in the most competitive league ever, speaks volumes.
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I arrived as a fan just after Malcolm left. A few questions to those around at the time:

Read somewhere that he resigned at the end of 75/76 as he was drained and disheartened after the semi final defeat. Is this true? Were there other reasons people heard about/suspected? As supporters, was it a shock and what was the feeling about Venners taking over? Were there other names in the frame?
The failure of the semi final coupled with the failure to get promotion meant the club faced another season of struggle with the finances. Having funded Palace for 4 years Bloye was disillusioned as much as Mal. I always believed it was a mutual parting of the two. Though the press were talking about Fiona in the bath bringing the club into disrepute.
I like many others loved the Mal era remember less than ten years before we were only just out of the third division after nearly 40 years of trying. Little Palace now we were spread across the press everyone had heard of us. Watching say Morcambe and Wise we get a mention.
Looking back Mal needed the Mercer character in the background just to curb some of the more wild brain ideas. But dont let that take away from the youth side he built but never took forward or the legacy he left never Little Old Palace ever again.
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Way before my time, but my dad and others I know from that time speak very highly of him.

Also before my time, but wasn't he the only one to dare suggest we'd win at Villa Park that day?

RIP Big Mal.
He was, the only one of the so called pundits who did, he didn't just suggest it, he stated it would be a Palace win, much to the amusement of the other pundits, this was at half time when we were loosing
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He was, the only one of the so called pundits who did, he didn't just suggest it, he stated it would be a Palace win, much to the amusement of the other pundits, this was at half time when we were loosing
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I arrived as a fan just after Malcolm left. A few questions to those around at the time:

Read somewhere that he resigned at the end of 75/76 as he was drained and disheartened after the semi final defeat. Is this true? Were there other reasons people heard about/suspected? As supporters, was it a shock and what was the feeling about Venners taking over? Were there other names in the frame?
Sadly you missed arguably the most exciting times in our history. Certainly was for me.

Really cannot remember how his resignation came about but think it was the failure of not winning the cup and not getting promoted after looking certainties with such a big points lead at one stage of the season. Cannot remember how many points we were in front of the second place team. Maybe someone on here can remember.

I think TV was always going to succeed Mal and certain it was Mal's intention to hand over to him.
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We were miles ahead before the cup started - ten points or so above second.

Agreed there was never any chance of anyone but TV taking over, he was the "dauphin".
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For fans like myself who saw the "Big Mal" effect first hand at Palace, ok some bad publicity but that was done as part of a ploy to bring the club to the media/public forefront, but also so much good aswell on the playing front that he will always be remembered as a major part of our clubs history.
He gave CPFC a club who were on its knees into becoming a club with an identity again along with the publicity to see it reborn not just On the pitch but Off it aswell, his antics made most Palace fans start to smile and feel proud again. The vision and ideas of the man was so far ahead of all others around him and lets not forget this was nearly Half a Century ago, bringing in John Cartwright arguebaly the finest Youth player developer ever to the club was a masterstroke, as was having the vision in promoting Terry Venables into coaching/management amongst many other achievements.
But as a club without financial clout to carry out the visions of someone like Big Mal made it inevitable that at some stage it would go pear shape sooner or later, but when looking back on our clubs past we need to embrace the Malcolm Allison era with a smile, and remember the great man for what he brought to CPFC at a difficult time.
And then following on to a lesser extent but with his incredible achievements the other great man in our history the one and only Steve Coppell, But we must never forget the superb job Roy Hodgson is doing currently under incredibily difficuly circumstances and this at the very Highest level in the most competitive league ever, speaks volumes.
Why do you say we were a club on its knees? When Bloye and Allison took over we were in our 4th season in the top flight, averaging 30k and those glaziers kits in the early 70's looked superb. Arthur Wait may have wanted out but the day he left and Bloye took over was one of the worst ever for our club, despite how much fun the 3rd division may have been.

The saddest thing was Bloye knew he had already effectively sold the club down the river at that Burnley game, the brilliant youth team Allison had built was destined to be split up and sold due to Bloye's decisions. As SJ also proved, an academy is useless if you don't have the financial depth to enable it to develop its players.
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Not clear why Big Mal left in 1976 (I was only 13!) but it was actually a huge anti- climax not getting promotion back to Division Two, which was after all the main objective, having been a top tier club only three years previously, Palace came very close in 1974/75 too - it’s hard to relate to contemporary fans, but other Third Divisions clubs treated Palace as still being a top flight club, a guess a bit like Man City and Leeds in more recent seasons - you would open a programme s read that Palace were a ‘glamour club’ which is true when you consider we were playing clubs like Halifax, Chester, Aldershot and York most weeks - and almost inexplicably getting beaten by them quite often too!

The Cup in 75/76 was simply epic, Palace’s best run in any competition since formation 70 years before that season started - the wins over Leeds, Chelsea and Sunderland all away and in huge crowds of 44,000 to 54,000 with huge travelling Palace support - still some of the greatest days in all my years following Palace - it left us 90 minutes from Wembley in April 1976 and still within touching distance of promotion, despite a desperate run of League form that saw so many draws and silly defeats, despite running away at the top of Division Three before Christmas.

It was a double anti-climax, but talk about going out in a blaze of glory, well near glory, but that really led us onto the massive trip we got in the next three years, back to Division One, where Mal was meant to lead us to in the first place!

You really had to be there to realise what momentous days they were in Palace’s history, which will seem silly considering they were largely in the Third tier, but they forged Palace’s dna and never say die spirit to this very day - the very essence of what Palace have always been for me - and due in no small amount to Big Mal.
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Also, like this interview from 2009 about his time at Palace.


Especially good of 'Crooksy' to stop & do the interview on the way to his own HF audition....

But that 75/76 sash kit is a thing of absolute beauty, no?
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Why do you say we were a club on its knees? When Bloye and Allison took over we were in our 4th season in the top flight, averaging 30k and those glaziers kits in the early 70's looked superb. Arthur Wait may have wanted out but the day he left and Bloye took over was one of the worst ever for our club, despite how much fun the 3rd division may have been.

The saddest thing was Bloye knew he had already effectively sold the club down the river at that Burnley game, the brilliant youth team Allison had built was destined to be split up and sold due to Bloye's decisions. As SJ also proved, an academy is useless if you don't have the financial depth to enable it to develop its players.
Fair comment. We are still hampered by Bloye's bad decisions and financial failures, to this day, of course. Steve Parish must curse his name!
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Palace Liverpool villa Park semi final.

Big Mal the only TV pundit to say palace would win before extra time started.

Great manager. Mid seventies were good times under his management.
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Great manager. Mid seventies were good times under his management.[/QUOTE]

This was possibly his greatest win for us, the 1-0 FA cup 4th round win at the then mighty Leeds. An absolute masterclass from him and some brilliant comments from him at the end.

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