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Old 20-10-2019, 09:24 PM
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Old 20-10-2019, 09:26 PM
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If they sellout on this issue, they will be waking up next to a horses head, so money won't work this time.......its their only red line
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Old 20-10-2019, 09:28 PM
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Old 20-10-2019, 09:44 PM
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If brexit isn’t going to slow down globalisation and the Eu or the uk are highly unlikely to put the interests of the Caribbean ahead of their own; what’s the point, or more pertinently your point for supporting brexit?
I am neither for or against Brexit, I have no vote, just waiting to see what happens, but I do want it to be over, either way, sooner rather than later

As I have said, globalization, on the other hand, is making me uncomfortable, and living in the Caribbean I feel that I am closer to the sharp end of it
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Old 20-10-2019, 09:46 PM
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Old 20-10-2019, 09:47 PM
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I am neither for or against Brexit, I have no vote, just waiting to see what happens, but I do want it to be over, either way, sooner rather than later

As I have said, globalization, on the other hand, is making me uncomfortable, and living in the Caribbean I feel that I am closer to the sharp end of it
To be honest living where you are I’d be asking for more of it if only on one topic; climate change. Thing is the world will only globalise properly on that if they continue to globalise on everything else.
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Old 21-10-2019, 05:10 AM
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I am neither for or against Brexit, I have no vote, just waiting to see what happens, but I do want it to be over, either way, sooner rather than later

As I have said, globalization, on the other hand, is making me uncomfortable, and living in the Caribbean I feel that I am closer to the sharp end of it
The only way it's over soon is revoke and staying in the EU. Actually leaving is just the end of the beginning, there'll be years more of it
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Old 21-10-2019, 05:51 AM
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Old 21-10-2019, 07:06 AM
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To be honest living where you are I’d be asking for more of it if only on one topic; climate change. Thing is the world will only globalise properly on that if they continue to globalise on everything else.
Ha, you may have a point but lets just say I hope that the world can keep "globalization" and "agreements on climate change" as two separate distinct issues
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Old 21-10-2019, 07:08 AM
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The only way it's over soon is revoke and staying in the EU. Actually leaving is just the end of the beginning, there'll be years more of it
Yes indeed, this is a point I made a few pages back about "putting it to bed"
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Old 21-10-2019, 07:45 AM
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Was Arlene posing in front of a fairground mirror when she posed for that?
Haha, I thought that.
It just seems madness to me that the DUP would reject a deal that is so favourable to them, which Raab (ffs!) has pointed out to them as they get the 'best of both worlds'
Economically they would be much better off and over time could close the massive income gap with the ROI (currently ROI is €45k pa versus NI £23k) which along with other trading advantages and more positive demographics just make an open border (even if it does end up in a UI) much more desirable in terms of peace, prosperity and opportunity.

Why on earth would they want to tie themselves to the iceberg of English nationalism (which includes a bias against all Irish people) when the Tories have just thrown them under a bus and the current labour leadership have some republcan sympathies.

On the other hand why would the ROI want to absorb NI and be left with all the shit that comes with it
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Old 21-10-2019, 08:04 AM
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Did anyone post this little gem....

Our government's own assessments are that this will hurt the economy by 4-6% a year... but I still think it's the right thing to do because we had the referendum in 2016' says former Home Secretary, Amber Rudd
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Old 21-10-2019, 08:09 AM
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Our government's own assessments are that this will hurt the economy by 4-6% a year... but I still think it's the right thing to do because we had the referendum in 2016' says former Home Secretary, Amber Rudd
A year!!!....surely she means 4-6% over say 10 years?? Otherwise Argentina ruination here we come
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Old 21-10-2019, 08:11 AM
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Today is going to be another toxic session with Johnson trying to bounce parliament into a vote on the “deal”. They will be livid if Bercow blocks it.
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Old 21-10-2019, 08:28 AM
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Today is going to be another toxic session with Johnson trying to bounce parliament into a vote on the “deal”. They will be livid if Bercow blocks it.
The Tories are in election mode in which they will play 2 jokers. The first is Corbyn 'the Marxist' the second is the people versus parliament. If Bercow blocks it, it plays into their strategy of parliament blocking the will of the people.

They have already made Bercow the bogeyman in this strategy and being 'livid' will just get pounced on by the pro brexit press but by parliamentary rules it should get blocked as technically a vote was held (going through on the nod) without 'division!'. Personally I think the Tories messed up as they opted for the optics of a walkout when Letwin was passed.
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Old 21-10-2019, 08:32 AM
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Can’t support BJs plan, can’t support the UK being in a CU, want to honour the GFA (allegedly) and have the magic votes at the moment.....wonder if a promise of no abortion might buy them off?

Jim Shannon: DUP cannot support a customs union

The DUP’s Jim Shannon has told Sky his party would not support an amendment that would keep the UK in a customs union with the EU.
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Old 21-10-2019, 08:43 AM
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Steve Baker doing the rounds complaining bitterly about the Remainers delaying tactics.

These are the guys (the ERG) who will have diarised 31 December 2020 as a the date when they might be able to really leave the EU without a deal.
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The Tories are in election mode in which they will play 2 jokers. The first is Corbyn 'the Marxist' the second is the people versus parliament. If Bercow blocks it, it plays into their strategy of parliament blocking the will of the people.

They have already made Bercow the bogeyman in this strategy and being 'livid' will just get pounced on by the pro brexit press but by parliamentary rules it should get blocked as technically a vote was held (going through on the nod) without 'division!'. Personally I think the Tories messed up as they opted for the optics of a walkout when Letwin was passed.
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Of course. And the daft twats will lap it up.
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Did anyone post this little gem....

Our government's own assessments are that this will hurt the economy by 4-6% a year... but I still think it's the right thing to do because we had the referendum in 2016' says former Home Secretary, Amber Rudd

That's Amber Rudd, one of the most incompetent, discredited politicians we've had in years. I think it unlikely that she can do basic maths, so when she talks about percentages and such like we need to be very patient with her.

Another view on Johnson's deal comes from the governor of the Bank of England who really does understand figures:

"The governor of the Bank of England has told the BBC that the new Brexit deal struck by the government is "welcome" and a "net economic positive". "

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And these two conflicting views shows the difficulty the public has. First, it has to rely on media soundbites because there is no intelligent political analysis or debate. No wonder 'fake news' is so influential now. Second, both sides can select soundbites (as I've just done) to promote whatever view they hold and as a result many people have simply stopped listening

How on earth has this great country come to a point where it's political leaders (on both sides) are so inept? Perhaps, though, it's unfair to call Johnson 'inept'. He has sold a clear vision with a simple, consistent message. The fact that he's being allowed to do so on a fraudulent basis reflects worse on the opposition than it does on him
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