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Old 17-01-2019, 06:12 PM
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it really really isn’t as what you propose achieves nothing as it doesn’t address the flavour of leave.

A referendum is required if parliament cannot agree a way forward. Parliament then have to allow the electorate to do their job for them and decide the next steps and that decision has to produce some finality. So if leave is chosen the flavour of leave has to be chosen as well.
Few have the time or inclination to go through deals to see what they actually mean. I believe the referendum was about simple concepts. FoM, Cash sent to the EU and spurious laws and rules. Today you can add to that a Federal state (EU army for instance) and NI.

Remain or Leave is sufficient, the rest can be left to the politicians. If Leave or Remain is taken out of the equation all they need is a deadline which will inevitably be imposed by the EU.
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Old 17-01-2019, 06:14 PM
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Few have the time or inclination to go through deals to see what they actually mean. I believe the referendum was about simple concepts. FoM, Cash sent to the EU and spurious laws and rules. Today you can add to that a Federal state (EU army for instance) and NI.

Remain or Leave is sufficient, the rest can be left to the politicians. If Leave or Remain is taken out of the equation all they need is a deadline which will inevitably be imposed by the EU.
we’ve already left leave to the politicians. They have failed, and will continue to.
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Old 17-01-2019, 06:16 PM
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Ah yes the stupidly worded question that was so vague and led to the current situation. Lol
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Old 17-01-2019, 06:23 PM
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. I believe the referendum was about simple concepts. FoM, Cash sent to the EU and spurious laws and rules..
And therein lies the problem. You may believe that's what the question meant and someone else may believe something different, the reality may be something else.
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Old 17-01-2019, 06:24 PM
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we’ve already left leave to the politicians. They have failed, and will continue to.
Its like he's missed the last few years
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Old 17-01-2019, 06:25 PM
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we’ve already left leave to the politicians. They have failed, and will continue to.
Yes but given a second referendum they would have no choice but to act in accordance with it.
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Old 17-01-2019, 06:25 PM
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Its like he's missed the last few years
Nothing has changed except that "no deal" is just around the corner.
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Old 17-01-2019, 06:28 PM
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Yes but given a second referendum they would have no choice but to act in accordance with it.
And if leave wins, which leave option will they take?
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Old 17-01-2019, 06:36 PM
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And if leave wins, which leave option will they take?
Any option that protects the above. The remainers will have to drop their campaign for a vote and get on with leaving. You are falling into the trap of expecting the public to go into details.
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Old 17-01-2019, 07:03 PM
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Any option that protects the above. The remainers will have to drop their campaign for a vote and get on with leaving. You are falling into the trap of expecting the public to go into details.
I was rather hoping that we'd moved on from the vagueness and not wasted the last few years
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Old 17-01-2019, 07:12 PM
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Old 17-01-2019, 07:51 PM
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There was an article in Property Week yesterday citing research stating that buy to let in London is starting to be affected by Brexit uncertainty.
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Old 17-01-2019, 08:09 PM
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Any option that protects the above. The remainers will have to drop their campaign for a vote and get on with leaving. You are falling into the trap of expecting the public to go into details.
Which is how we got into this mess. Giving people a vote on something they can’t, or won’t bother to, understand.
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Which is how we got into this mess. Giving people a vote on something they can’t, or won’t bother to, understand.
Might as well do away with local/general elections then.
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Old 17-01-2019, 08:26 PM
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Might as well do away with local/general elections then.
Most such elections do not revolve around a complex binary vote.
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Most such elections do not revolve around a complex binary vote.
You're overthinking it.

You either do or you don't.

That should be the polling question of every election poll ever!
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I can just about understand people wanted to leave the EU (because they are dense).
But I take it all that Farage stuff is a sick joke.
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