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Old 16-07-2021, 08:13 AM
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NEW TRANSFER POLICY

The new transfer policy is fantastic compared to the previous 4 years but why the sudden change ?.A clue was given in the interview with Parish in which he stated effectively that the 3 key people involved ie Parish Dougie and the manager were now all on the same page as regards which players to sign.This confirms constant rumours that DF was constantly finding a lot of undiscovered gems in the lower leagues ,Parish would vote in favour only for Hodgson to block it.One example apparently was Ollie Watkins who DF wanted to sign from Exeter for buttons only for Hodgson to block it.instead Hodgson wanted to sign Danny Welbeck (for more money) but DF and Parish blocked that
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Old 16-07-2021, 08:17 AM
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Why all capitals? Perhaps we were hindered by our massive wage bill? General feeling on here was that Villa were mad to spend £33m on Watkins? Why another Roy bashing thread? Without Roy we would have been in the championship, especially after the FdB season.

It is a very exciting time but let’s see how it pans out.
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The new transfer policy is fantastic compared to the previous 4 years but why the sudden change ?.A clue was given in the interview with Parish in which he stated effectively that the 3 key people involved ie Parish Dougie and the manager were now all on the same page as regards which players to sign.This confirms constant rumours that DF was constantly finding a lot of undiscovered gems in the lower leagues ,Parish would vote in favour only for Hodgson to block it.One example apparently was Ollie Watkins who DF wanted to sign from Exeter for buttons only for Hodgson to block it.instead Hodgson wanted to sign Danny Welbeck (for more money) but DF and Parish blocked that
Hodgson gave the club scope to stay in premier league whilst conserving money and allowing mainly the Pardew / Allardyce era signings to run their contacts down. That has given the club the foundation to implement the strategy. No need to slag off Hodgson as without him we would be back to 2010, just playing youth because we had no choice not because they were good enough
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The new transfer policy is fantastic compared to the previous 4 years but why the sudden change ?.A clue was given in the interview with Parish in which he stated effectively that the 3 key people involved ie Parish Dougie and the manager were now all on the same page as regards which players to sign.This confirms constant rumours that DF was constantly finding a lot of undiscovered gems in the lower leagues ,Parish would vote in favour only for Hodgson to block it.One example apparently was Ollie Watkins who DF wanted to sign from Exeter for buttons only for Hodgson to block it.instead Hodgson wanted to sign Danny Welbeck (for more money) but DF and Parish blocked that
Some real ITK stuff here or total made up bollocks?
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Why all capitals? Perhaps we were hindered by our massive wage bill? General feeling on here was that Villa were mad to spend £33m on Watkins? Why another Roy bashing thread? Without Roy we would have been in the championship, especially after the FdB season.

It is a very exciting time but letís see how it pans out.
Watkins was signed by Brentford from Exeter for 1.8m (which is what was referred to)
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Watkins was signed by Brentford from Exeter for 1.8m (which is what was referred to)
Fine, rest still stands. Some seem unable to appreciate what is happening now without slagging Roy off.

Bit premature given a ball hasnít been kicked yet.
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While I’m all in favour of the two main signings (assuming the Chelsea lad signs), but I think we need to calm down a little. We need several more signing given the released and injuries list. So it’s a good start, still some way to go yet, need another 3-4 good signings I would hope
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Definitely seem to be pushing the "South/London & Proud" with our new Transfer policy, obviously they are outstanding talents individually, but you'd like to think maybe it'll also benefit us when attracting/retaining academy players as they will have role models in the starting IX.

Eze = Lewisham
Olise = Hammersmith
Mitchell = Brent
Zaha = Ivory Coast/Croydon
Guehi = Ivory Coast/Bromley*
Clyne = Stockwell

With targets of;

Gallgaher = Epsom
Lookman = Wandsworth
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Fine, rest still stands. Some seem unable to appreciate what is happening now without slagging Roy off.
Dont view it as slagging off Hodgson, it doesnt have to be that binary, but to acknowledge that it is beneficial that there is better harmony in terms of transfer policy as people are pulling in the same direction is not a criticism of Hodgson’s reign. Hodgson was great and it doesn't undo his achievements. Hodgson was brought in to fire fight at a crisis point and remained in charge as he was a success. The new DOF was put in place after he joined aswell so this structure grew around Hodgson so again he cant be criticised, but now the structure is in place and Vieira is an appointment to fit within that, so this is the first time we are seeing it’s existence. It is not wrong to celebrate that.
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didn't watkins go to brentford in july 2017????

roy was appointed manager in sept 2017??????
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The view will split down the already predetermined lines.

Either Roy was not backed financially, he was given nothing to really work with whilst the club got itself sorted financially and when they were he was pushed aside.

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Roy frustrated SP and DF by wanting different players to the ones they wanted and there was not harmony in the recruitment strategy. Now that Roy has called it a day the club have brought in someone aligned with the strategy and we are seeing the fruits of that already.

What we know could fit either of those positions.
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The view will split down the already predetermined lines.

Either Roy was not backed financially, he was given nothing to really work with whilst the club got itself sorted financially and when they were he was pushed aside.

or

Roy frustrated SP and DF by wanting different players to the ones they wanted and there was not harmony in the recruitment strategy. Now that Roy has called it a day the club have brought in someone aligned with the strategy and we are seeing the fruits of that already.

What we know could fit either of those positions.
so in the end it is somewhere in the middle then???
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didn't watkins go to brentford in july 2017????

roy was appointed manager in sept 2017??????
He probably blocked it some other way I expect. Rang up Pardew and told him Watkins' wife was a lesbian, or something.

Another top signing #ruinedbyRoy
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It's not exactly surprising that managers prefer experienced players over prospects, is it ?

Managers are judged on a very short-term view of results, so I can completely understand why they would do this.

The difficulty for Parish & Dougie is in trying to give the managers assurance that they will not be judged where results are affected by playing unseasoned players. That's hard, I think, but would be great if they can crack that. But will our, noxiously whinging, support accept it ?

Personally, I love seeing young players come into the first team, and watching them develop - but our crowd have got on the back of so many players over the years I can see why a manager would be apprehensive about this approach.
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The view will split down the already predetermined lines.

Either Roy was not backed financially, he was given nothing to really work with whilst the club got itself sorted financially and when they were he was pushed aside.

or

Roy frustrated SP and DF by wanting different players to the ones they wanted and there was not harmony in the recruitment strategy. Now that Roy has called it a day the club have brought in someone aligned with the strategy and we are seeing the fruits of that already.

What we know could fit either of those positions.
Even if that is true I'm not really sure that's a criticism of Roy.

Ultimately he's paid to achieve the results and felt he would be able to better achieve that with a big, experienced squad hence the signings of Kouyate, McCarthy, Ayew, Batshuayi and Cahill.
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didn't watkins go to brentford in july 2017????

roy was appointed manager in sept 2017??????
So much for that conspiracy theory then.
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Personally, I love seeing young players come into the first team, and watching them develop - but our crowd have got on the back of so many players over the years I can see why a manager would be apprehensive about this approach.
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He probably blocked it some other way I expect. Rang up Pardew and told him Watkins' wife was a lesbian, or something.

Another top signing #ruinedbyRoy
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