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Old 09-08-2016, 09:20 AM
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He won't get a proper crack here these days.
Things like this make me think relegation wouldn't be a bad thing
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:37 AM
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The fact that he made the bench for one game last season must mean that the club thinks highly of him, but everyone knows that breaking into a Premier League team is very hard for youngsters these days. Hopefully we can stay safe in mid table all season so the likes of him can get a game or two.
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Things like this make me think relegation wouldn't be a bad thing
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Things like this make me think relegation wouldn't be a bad thing
I think this sometimes too

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The fact that he made the bench for one game last season must mean that the club thinks highly of him, but everyone knows that breaking into a Premier League team is very hard for youngsters these days. Hopefully we can stay safe in mid table all season so the likes of him can get a game or two.
It is hard because clubs make it hard. Doesn't have to be.

However, seems he needs to bulk up
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He won't get a proper crack here these days.
Things like this make me think relegation wouldn't be a bad thing
A 17 year old > the future of the club

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Totally agree with that. Sometimes this insistence from certain managers to hold them back like they might break in half or something is frustrating. Peter Taylor was a classic case of this and Warnock was such a breath of fresh air in comparison. If it was left to Taylor, Nat Clyne would probably still be 'not quite ready' for his debut yet!

Clyne is a classic example of why throwing them in sometimes pays big dividends. He wasn't that highly rated in our academy; in fact I think I'm right in saying it wasn't that long before his debut where he struggled to hold down a place in the academy side. But from that very first game he just looked the real deal.

Of course it's a lot easier to risk playing youngsters when you're a Championship side, as at Premier League level you can properly get your pants pulled down if you show any weaknesses; but still think in the right game and moment, we should be testing out some of these kids just in case we might have a golden nugget on our hands.
Wilf was the obvious example. Late developer in the academy - chucked in the first team squad and ran with it.
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25 senior players on high wages who need to be involved to keep morale high, you can only select 18 for a match. Thats why its hard to break in, and you have to be good to do it. I want to see youngsters break in but people make out its a malicious move by the club to not play them.
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25 senior players on high wages who need to be involved to keep morale high, you can only select 18 for a match. Thats why its hard to break in, and you have to be good to do it. I want to see youngsters break in but people make out its a malicious move by the club to not play them.
This is why you need a good strong manager, unlike ours(yes a dig ), one who will play the best team he can field every game and one who have the respect of all the players, so a youngster can be brought in and encouraged.
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Its easy to say that AJ but when you have CY Lee complaining to the press about a lack of chances and Mariappa winding his contract down; these result in poor morale around the dressing room, senior players in the squad need to be respected otherwise why have 25?

Even if one youngster is included on the bench, only 3 get on the pitch. The only time you would risk it over a senior in the same position is if we were coasting to victory, even though it is dangerous to do this in the Premiership with every point vital.

Jonny Williams made a cameo against Chelsea last season and plenty of people complained he passed sideways and didnt cause a threat (not what I thought) so Im sure plenty would complain if a youngster came on and we lost.

I want to see youngsters come through, but I object to it being used as a swipe at the management. Pardew needs to keep 25 players happy and in form first, so they can come in if required, this gets over-looked.
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is there something wrong with me enjoying seeing palace produce young players that play for the first team?
No but to say you sometimes think of relegation so you can see the odd young player is fairly odd.
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If we hadn't had such a disastrous second half of the season we might have seen a few more youngsters blooded, likewise if we weren't fighting for our lives the previous two seasons the same thing could have been said.

Hopefully we will have a more stable season this year and it will give the opportunity for a few youngsters to play a few games towards the back end when we are safe and if we aren't near the Europa League places.
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You can't seriously want to see us relegated just so that we can play some youngsters?
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No but to say you sometimes think of relegation so you can see the odd young player is fairly odd.
I didn't say that
I said/implied things like youngsters coming through would mean it isn't all a bad thing. Not even implying I wish it would happen.
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You can't seriously want to see us relegated just so that we can play some youngsters?
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You did imply it though
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hmm, you maybe interpreted it that way. I never meant it that way.

You cant see that if we went down at least one positive might be you'd see some youngster get more of a chance to develop and become first team players?
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