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Old 07-10-2004, 03:57 PM
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I cant belive loads of you dont actually know the rules!! I now know why so many people scream at the ref/lino over decisions when they are clearly correct!
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Old 07-10-2004, 04:11 PM
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Slimbloke'H' is correct...well as of my training to be a referee about a year or so ago.

It is possible to be penalized for being offside from a backward pass. If you are in the situation where you are in front of the ball and in an offside position when the ball is played...then run back to get the ball you should be penalized for being offside.

As long as lakis stayed behind the ball he couldn't be penalized for being offside.
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Indeed Steve.

I like being in some doubt. I don't want the number of decisions that appear to me to be contentious to reduce substantially.

I'm going to keep a sharp eye out for the "off-side from a goalkick" flag though, because I'm convinced it gets flagged occasionally. If I spot one I will call it to everyone's attention on the match review threads.
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I'm going to keep a sharp eye out for the "off-side from a goalkick" flag though, because I'm convinced it gets flagged occasionally. If I spot one I will call it to everyone's attention on the match review threads.
I believe that people get this confused with an offside decision, for example, an offside given in the penalty area taken by the goalkeeper and hoofed up field as a goal kick would be, but from the offside freekick you can be given offside, whereas the goal kick you cannot be given offside.
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That could well be it Steve, good point.
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I really cannot believe that you don't knoe the difference between a goal kick and a drop kick!
I know the difference - what i meant to say was the difference when applied to these rules. Lots of people/rules/bibles were saying it is or isn't offside - but I was just attempting to clarify whether they meant from an actual goalkick or not.
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Slightly different question, but relevant as it occured on Monday night with van der Sar. When a outfield player receives treatment for an injury, he has to leave the pitch. Does the same apply to goalkeepers?
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It is my understanding the 'forward pass' rule was removed from the game some years ago which dictates you can be offside from a corner kick.

Going back to the original question, Lakis was in an offside position (as there needs to be two opposition players (including the 'keeper) .
Doesn't necessarily have to be the goalkeeper, as long as its too defenders, so it could be two out field players or one plus the goalie.
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The only time you can not be offside and in front of all the defenders is from a throw in.
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If a player is behind the player playing the ball at the time of release, whether the ball goes back or forward, he cannot be offside...
Correct. Why did you quote my post to point this out?
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Doesn't necessarily have to be the goalkeeper, as long as its too defenders, so it could be two out field players or one plus the goalie.
I didn't write that sentence very well, did I? It should've read more like ...as there needs to be two opposition players (one of whom can be the 'keeper).
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And i was told a while back, a free kick which results from an offside. is Indirect.
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The only time you can not be offside and in front of all the defenders is from a throw in.
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And i was told a while back, a free kick which results from an offside. is Indirect.
Indeed it is.
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You CAN be off side from a goal kick AND a drop kick.
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Sorry you CANNOT be offside from a goal kick but you CAN from a drop kick. I dont know what got into me.
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.....so AJ was just being a greedy **** after all all he had to do was square the f-ing ball.....Lakis was on side
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.....so AJ was just being a greedy **** after all all he had to do was square the f-ing ball.....Lakis was on side
With Van Der Whatshisface staying more or less on his line, it was probably the right decision by AJ to go for goal. It was just a cr@p shot.
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