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Old 02-08-2020, 02:43 PM
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Why did Max change his tyres?
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He was safe in second with enough time to pit and go for fastest lap which was worth an extra point. They weren't to know Hamilton's tyre would fail as well.
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Why did Max change his tyres?
He said "we were lucky but unlucky".
Lucky that they had time to change his tires (his front left wasn't in great shape) and go for the fastest lap but unlucky as they couldn't know Hamilton would have a puncture too.
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I have mixed feelings. It was a stupendous last lap by Hamilton, but on the other hand it was extreme recklessness, which the marshalls/stewards should have hauled him up for/black flagged him. I just feel Hamilton being a bit coloured gives him a bit of an edge in these situations, where paler-skinned drivers would be given no margins. Hamilton should have been black-flagged, but then that would have been a bit racist ,....
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I have mixed feelings. It was a stupendous last lap by Hamilton, but on the other hand it was extreme recklessness, which the marshalls/stewards should have hauled him up for/black flagged him. I just feel Hamilton being a bit coloured gives him a bit of an edge in these situations, where paler-skinned drivers would be given no margins. Hamilton should have been black-flagged, but then that would have been a bit racist ,....
I remember people dressing up as monkeys in the stands during Hamilton's debut F1 season, and here we are all these years later still reading racist drivel about him.

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I have mixed feelings. It was a stupendous last lap by Hamilton, but on the other hand it was extreme recklessness, which the marshalls/stewards should have hauled him up for/black flagged him. I just feel Hamilton being a bit coloured gives him a bit of an edge in these situations, where paler-skinned drivers would be given no margins. Hamilton should have been black-flagged, but then that would have been a bit racist ,....
There has been other incidents in the past of drivers finishing races on punctures without punishment. Nothing to do with skin colour whatsoever
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Old 03-08-2020, 11:14 AM
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Old 03-08-2020, 11:15 AM
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There has been other incidents in the past of drivers finishing races on punctures without punishment. Nothing to do with skin colour whatsoever

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Old 03-08-2020, 11:20 AM
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I have mixed feelings. It was a stupendous last lap by Hamilton, but on the other hand it was extreme recklessness, which the marshalls/stewards should have hauled him up for/black flagged him. I just feel Hamilton being a bit coloured gives him a bit of an edge in these situations, where paler-skinned drivers would be given no margins. Hamilton should have been black-flagged, but then that would have been a bit racist ,....

Apart from Bottas and Sainz in the SAME ******* race.
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Old 03-08-2020, 11:21 AM
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There has been other incidents in the past of drivers finishing races on punctures without punishment. Nothing to do with skin colour whatsoever
Please find a similar incident. Mansell had to pit-stop in Monaco in 1992 (when leading) because of a puncture a few laps from the end, and finished second. As a marshall, I would have back-flagged Hamilton for his car being in a dangerous condition. And not only that, but the stewards post-race inspection should have found his car unfit to race.
Like I said. Remarkable last lap. But rules is for everyone.
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Old 03-08-2020, 11:25 AM
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Apart from Bottas and Sainz in the SAME ******* race.
and why do you think that was ?
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Please find a similar incident. Mansell had to pit-stop in Monaco in 1992 (when leading) because of a puncture a few laps from the end, and finished second. As a marshall, I would have back-flagged Hamilton for his car being in a dangerous condition. And not only that, but the stewards post-race inspection should have found his car unfit to race.
Like I said. Remarkable last lap. But rules is for everyone.

A few laps? As opposed to half a lap.

So Mansell was able to complete a lap to get to the pit stop and change. Whereas Hamilton just has to be black flagged a few corners form the end?

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and why do you think that was ?

Because Hamilton is a ******. Of course.
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Hamilton being a bit coloured gives him a bit of an edge in these situations, where paler-skinned drivers would be given no margins. .
This still staggers me. Bottas, literally 2 laps earlier, was given the exact same margins and, in fact, had just turned on to the pit straight when his tyre deflated. He had drive the entire length of the circuit to get back to the pits. The ENTIRE LENGTH with a flat. This is the exact same position Mansell would have found himself in. Neither would have tried to continue to the end as they would have lost more time and more places. If they were on the last lap, they too would have continued to the end. Lewis was coming round copse into Maggotts and Becketts when his tyre started to deflate, leaving him with just 3-4 corners to navigate. Why shouldn't he be given the same "edge" to get back to the pit straight, or in his case on the last lap, the finish line?

Ridiculous argument.

Or are you seriously suggesting the stewards predicted Hamilton's tyre failure before Bottas' so gave Bottas "edge" in anticipation of Hamilton's failure?
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Please find a similar incident. Mansell had to pit-stop in Monaco in 1992 (when leading) because of a puncture a few laps from the end, and finished second. As a marshall, I would have back-flagged Hamilton for his car being in a dangerous condition. And not only that, but the stewards post-race inspection should have found his car unfit to race.
Like I said. Remarkable last lap. But rules is for everyone.
Look it up yourself. It's easy enough to find.

Any driver in the field suffering a puncture in the same circumstances as Hamilton would have creeped round to the end. Any driver would have therefore received the same punishment (or lack thereof) from the stewards. If anything it's sounds like you're the one with the issue with his skin colour. Not the stewards.
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This still staggers me. Bottas, literally 2 laps earlier, was given the exact same margins and, in fact, had just turned on to the pit straight when his tyre deflated. He had drive the entire length of the circuit to get back to the pits. The ENTIRE LENGTH with a flat. This is the exact same position Mansell would have found himself in. Neither would have tried to continue to the end as they would have lost more time and more places. If they were on the last lap, they too would have continued to the end. Lewis was coming round copse into Maggotts and Becketts when his tyre started to deflate, leaving him with just 3-4 corners to navigate. Why shouldn't he be given the same "edge" to get back to the pit straight, or in his case on the last lap, the finish line?

Ridiculous argument.

Or are you seriously suggesting the stewards predicted Hamilton's tyre failure before Bottas' so gave Bottas "edge" in anticipation of Hamilton's failure?
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