Home | Forums | Gallery | Twitter
 
CPFC BBS  

Go Back   CPFC BBS Ľ Crystal Palace Football Club Ľ Transfer Hotline

Notices

Transfer Hotline Latest transfer news, rumours and suggestions for new Palace players. Includes outgoing transfers and news on released players.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #81  
Old 30-07-2020, 07:29 AM
NRM the 2nd's Avatar
NRM the 2nd NRM the 2nd is offline
Eagles
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: In a flat
Age: 40
Posts: 2,256
Rep Power: 10224834
NRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNRM the 2nd came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Not a loan, sick of f$#king loans. All they do is leave us weaker the following season and dont progress us one bit as we all know if they turn out any good we never have a chance of signing them.
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 30-07-2020, 07:34 AM
GB2506 GB2506 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Bromley
Age: 32
Posts: 6,907
Rep Power: 21474844
GB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by NRM the 2nd View Post
Not a loan, sick of f$#king loans. All they do is leave us weaker the following season and dont progress us one bit as we all know if they turn out any good we never have a chance of signing them.
Not making any loan signings really ****ed us over this season. The squad was weak and lacked depth in key areas due to not bringing in enough players. With clear lack of funds and the yanks reluctant to put more money in, we really need to utilise the loan market this season!
__________________
From Selhurst....!!!
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 30-07-2020, 07:37 AM
Kai's Avatar
Kai Kai is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Norway
Age: 47
Posts: 5,618
Rep Power: 21474858
Kai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is hereKai Sam the man is here
Did not stand out in the playoff games at least. Brentford has got some seriously better players
__________________
www.crystalpalace.no
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 30-07-2020, 07:39 AM
Cake and Eat It Cake and Eat It is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere, someplace
Age: 50
Posts: 2,498
Rep Power: 6896055
Cake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCake and Eat It came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Loans are useful. They need to be part of a longer term strategy to mitigate the damage when they leave.

Sheffield Utd certainly benefited from Henderson.
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 30-07-2020, 07:40 AM
GB2506 GB2506 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Bromley
Age: 32
Posts: 6,907
Rep Power: 21474844
GB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is hereGB2506 Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai View Post
Did not stand out in the playoff games at least. Brentford has got some seriously better players
Jensen and Emiliano are the type of creative central player we need. I do think Gallagher has potential though and he looked very tidy in the first leg!
__________________
From Selhurst....!!!
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 30-07-2020, 07:49 AM
Sir.S.C Remembered's Avatar
Sir.S.C Remembered Sir.S.C Remembered is offline
DGFootball Pod
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Surrey
Posts: 12,718
Rep Power: 10956027
Sir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSir.S.C Remembered came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cake and Eat It View Post
Loans are useful. They need to be part of a longer term strategy to mitigate the damage when they leave.

Sheffield Utd certainly benefited from Henderson.

They are inevitable until we get enough youth lads through. Saying that, weíve had plenty of talent come through before even without being cat1. Letís not think itís not possible for that to happen.

In an ideal world you agree an optional fee for the player at the end of the loan. Even if itís fairly high a fee. Because if they do well then itís likely the fee would have been higher. Of course clubs wonít agree to this and they hold all the cards in the current system.

Thereís a lot to be said for try before you buy and proven players in this league. As itís so hard to shift players
__________________
.
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 30-07-2020, 08:09 AM
chateauferret's Avatar
chateauferret chateauferret is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Age: 55
Posts: 7,508
Rep Power: 21474841
chateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by NRM the 2nd View Post
Not a loan, sick of f$#king loans. All they do is leave us weaker the following season and dont progress us one bit as we all know if they turn out any good we never have a chance of signing them.
Sakho and Ayew were both here on loan before signing permanently.
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 30-07-2020, 09:11 AM
Eddie McGoldrick's tash's Avatar
Eddie McGoldrick's tash Eddie McGoldrick's tash is offline
I'm thinking about it
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Nottingham
Age: 41
Posts: 31,665
Rep Power: 21474857
Eddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by NRM the 2nd View Post
Not a loan, sick of f$#king loans. All they do is leave us weaker the following season and dont progress us one bit as we all know if they turn out any good we never have a chance of signing them.
I don't understand this logic. If they help the team finish higher up the table for a reasonable price then they are good by me.
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old 30-07-2020, 09:24 AM
DAWSYEAGLE's Avatar
DAWSYEAGLE DAWSYEAGLE is offline
Untapped potential....
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Orpington
Age: 38
Posts: 1,920
Rep Power: 9559555
DAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDAWSYEAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
I think its fair to have the view that we should not loan this type of player. Bats and RLC which would involve a large outlay to sign, yes.
__________________
U is dreaming if you think this sh*t aint raw
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 30-07-2020, 09:48 AM
chateauferret's Avatar
chateauferret chateauferret is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Age: 55
Posts: 7,508
Rep Power: 21474841
chateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is herechateauferret Sam the man is here
Forecasting the kind of performance you will get from a player is terribly difficult even when there's form to go on. Nobody would have guessed that Benteke would turn literally overnight into a player so pony he couldn't find his own fly zip - it was like Kafka's Transformation. Most people thought Ayew would be pony on the basis of his loan spell but £2.5m was little risk and he has turned out to be excellent. Meyer looked like a great acquisition and has done stuff all. And Milivojevic has also hit long-term bad form. So has Townsend.

Loans at least help us mitigate this risk to a degree.
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old 30-07-2020, 09:50 AM
RPM-D RPM-D is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Crystal Palace
Posts: 170
Rep Power: 600120
RPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineRPM-D : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Quote:
Originally Posted by NRM the 2nd View Post
Not a loan, sick of f$#king loans. All they do is leave us weaker the following season and dont progress us one bit as we all know if they turn out any good we never have a chance of signing them.
We need a major squad overhaul and don't enough money to do it all in one go. Loans would bridge the gap between this season's squad and next and allow us to do it over a longer period. Next summer we'll need to buy a tonne of CBs because Dann and Cahill's contracts expire
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 30-07-2020, 09:53 AM
Jim Cannon's Avatar
Jim Cannon Jim Cannon is offline
I DON'T look like SJ
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Wapping
Age: 51
Posts: 51,641
Rep Power: 21474854
Jim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cake and Eat It View Post
Loans are useful. They need to be part of a longer term strategy to mitigate the damage when they leave.

Sheffield Utd certainly benefited from Henderson.
Yes they did but ultimately they are developing Man United's player. If he doesnt cut it there in time they will get a nice fee for him
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 30-07-2020, 12:29 PM
JHJ EAGLE's Avatar
JHJ EAGLE JHJ EAGLE is offline
Waterproof member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Scotton, North Yorkshire
Posts: 3,762
Rep Power: 7446264
JHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJHJ EAGLE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by SOUTHGATE EAGLE View Post
Effing hell, we'd be ready to spend £10M on a midfielder after spending £30M each on a defender and a striker. We must be desperate...
Say what? Weíve spent what on who now? I thought we had bought in two players on freebies, no?
__________________
Cooking in Qatar but not kissing camels
PS3 User Name - jpdmonkey66
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 30-07-2020, 12:34 PM
Dorking .Eagle's Avatar
Dorking .Eagle Dorking .Eagle is online now
Collecting Palace tat
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Dorking, Surrey
Posts: 26,332
Rep Power: 21474857
Dorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is hereDorking .Eagle Sam the man is here
His brothers Jake and Dan play for Dorking Wanderers, his family live in the Leatherhead area and are all Chelsea fans. He surely won't want to leave Chelsea permanently, it'll be a loan at best
__________________
"Crystal Palace is cult viewing, like a late night TV show that only a few people know about, like a precious record that was never number one but makes everybody who knows it want to dance and singÖ and sometimes cry." Tony, 3-7-2001

"Well, as I said before, we are only 6 points behind 4th from bottom with the prize of an additional £65 million (minimum) if we stay up. So, we'd be bonkers if that wasn't the top priority. Nobody's giving up on staying in this league." CPFC2010, 5-11-2013
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 30-07-2020, 12:53 PM
Gregz41 Gregz41 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Age: 29
Posts: 1,359
Rep Power: 10573566
Gregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGregz41 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle View Post
His brothers Jake and Dan play for Dorking Wanderers, his family live in the Leatherhead area and are all Chelsea fans. He surely won't want to leave Chelsea permanently, it'll be a loan at best
Perhaps he won't want to leave, but Chelsea are absolutely stacked in central midfield. Kante, Jorginho, Loftus-Cheek, Mount, Gilmour, Barkley, Kovacic. With the loan restrictions on the horizon, an outright buy isn't impossible.
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 30-07-2020, 01:07 PM
Olympian2 Olympian2 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Age: 51
Posts: 5,532
Rep Power: 21474843
Olympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is hereOlympian2 Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle View Post
His brothers Jake and Dan play for Dorking Wanderers, his family live in the Leatherhead area and are all Chelsea fans. He surely won't want to leave Chelsea permanently, it'll be a loan at best
Yeah, although Wilf has been an Arsenal fan since he was little & he loves playing for Palace....
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 30-07-2020, 02:54 PM
LuieJack LuieJack is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 3,114
Rep Power: 19966060
LuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLuieJack came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle View Post
His brothers Jake and Dan play for Dorking Wanderers, his family live in the Leatherhead area and are all Chelsea fans. He surely won't want to leave Chelsea permanently, it'll be a loan at best
As much as he would like to see his future at Chelsea, he maybe needs to get realistic with the abundance of very good midfielders at their disposal it will be impossible for now. Also he is still just 20 yrs old, then a move for now maybe is what's needed to establish himself, and a return if he warrants it in 2/3 years.
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 30-07-2020, 03:34 PM
budgie's Avatar
budgie budgie is offline
BBS Voyeur
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Posts: 3,097
Rep Power: 2509719
budgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minebudgie : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Now that Palace have Cat 1 status, we should hope to see local youngsters of a high standard signing for Palace, in the mean time even if it means developing other clubs players, it is a market we need to exploit.
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 30-07-2020, 03:48 PM
exiledeagle1's Avatar
exiledeagle1 exiledeagle1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Kildare, Ireland
Posts: 5,101
Rep Power: 13568322
exiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietexiledeagle1 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Would much prefer Brentfords Mathias Jensen.
__________________
http://www.sevenoaksart.co.uk/Crystal_palace.htm
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 30-07-2020, 06:49 PM
aj4england's Avatar
aj4england aj4england is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 15,053
Rep Power: 21474853
aj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is hereaj4england Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cannon View Post
Think you are right

It's so Palace to wait all this time to finally realise there is young talent out there, let's hope we don't waste our time going after players who won't come though
Yep not that plenty of talent is highlighted on long before they seem to interest cpfc
__________________
AJ - Walsall 3 Palace 4
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.