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Old 19-08-2019, 07:16 AM
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Our tactic seems to be keep passing the ball backwards and sideways till you are sure all the opposition have taken up their defensive positions and then pass the ball to them. Certainly that's what happened yesterday.
Our games is just too negative and lacking passion. Roy needs to get positive and get them fired up. He is too passive on the touch line when we are not performing.
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Old 19-08-2019, 07:22 AM
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A narrow 4-4-2 with a technically gifted footballer playing left midfield, where he has never played before and one of the best 1 on 1 wingers in world football, playing centrally with his back to goal most of the game. A CF who has lost all confidence to score goals.....the list is endless.

Itís turgid stuff but thatís Roy. Itís 2019 and the man is setting us up like a 1997 Premier League outfit. Appreciate Parish and Freedman have completely ****ed him over in the window but heís not helping himself by utilising what he has in front of him in the correct way.

Itís all very ******* depressing
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Old 19-08-2019, 08:15 AM
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Andros said in an interview that we are crossing team! He's put in three in two games....
& they have all been loopers that land outside the other side of the penalty box.
Even Biggles would not get to those.
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Old 19-08-2019, 09:59 AM
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A narrow 4-4-2 with a technically gifted footballer playing left midfield, where he has never played before and one of the best 1 on 1 wingers in world football, playing centrally with his back to goal most of the game. A CF who has lost all confidence to score goals.....the list is endless.

Itís turgid stuff but thatís Roy. Itís 2019 and the man is setting us up like a 1997 Premier League outfit. Appreciate Parish and Freedman have completely ****ed him over in the window but heís not helping himself by utilising what he has in front of him in the correct way.

Itís all very ******* depressing
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Old 19-08-2019, 11:14 AM
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Townsend and Zaha slow play down rather bomb into the box like Bolasie. Managment has been moving away from counter attacking since Pardew. Personally Ive never seen a problem with quick direct attacking play, we ponder under Hodgson knocking it about.
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Old 19-08-2019, 11:35 AM
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Itís a mess. We have a plethora of central midfield player but play a left back in central midfield.
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Old 19-08-2019, 11:37 AM
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Counter attacking/tight 4-4-2.
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Old 19-08-2019, 11:38 AM
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It is not the Palace style. Slow, slow, slow, slow slow.

We isolate a strikers and prfer to focus on keeping a clean sheet, with a hope that we might nick one. It is terrible to watch
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Old 19-08-2019, 01:02 PM
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We are a without the ball team . A team that is set up to be at our best when the other side has it . Its why we do OK against the better sides and are shite against other teams that set up not to loose .(like Sheffield Utd ).
It is evident from our home form that this is our style and in some respects playing away to Sheff Utd was like a home game where we were expected to dictate the play .
The game had 0-0 written all over it from very early on ,well it had 0 for us written all over it and that we conceded was just poor play in defending a situation that we had coped easily with earlier in the game .
This is it. We are a team set up to contain the opposition. We have workman in the middle of midfield who can break up play. The team keeps a narrow 4-4-2 encouraging the opponents on to them and hopefully crowding them off the ball. Give us the possession and we quickly hit a deadend. Zaha can produce magic but teams can crowd him out as there is no other outlet. Townsend gives you a screamer every 12 games or so. It's set up to destroy rather than create and as we are witnessing very hard to watch.
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Old 19-08-2019, 01:08 PM
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Old 19-08-2019, 01:12 PM
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Hodgson has taken us back to the peter taylor style of play. 10 men behind the ball whether we're playing man city or sheff utd. Try and grind out a 0.0 draw and grab a goal if zaha produces some magic. No wonder the best players want out, the rigid coaching and tactics must grind them down.
I said the same yesterday. It was turgid, gutless and joyless, and reminded me of peak Taylor.
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Old 19-08-2019, 01:38 PM
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BBC MOTD described our formation against Sheffield Utd as 4-3-3 when it looked like 4-4-2 to me.

Perhaps Townsend slipping forward during some attacks makes it 4-3-3.

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Just remembered when both Townsend and Ward attempted to cross the ball only for both of them to leave it to the other before Ward toepunted it out of play.

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I said the same yesterday. It was turgid, gutless and joyless, and reminded me of peak Taylor.
The Trevor Francis era took some beating too didn't it ?

What horrible spells they were.

And I fear we're we're heading that way again.

Its crazy, the squad on paper doesn't look too bad, okay there's not much depth (aside from the midfield) but it should be good enough to beat teams that will be in the bottom half.

Time and time again we complain about Roy's intransigence in mixing things up..
i.e. trying something different (set plays, formation, starting XI)

He clearly wont change now, so it is , what it is.

4,4,2

Keep the formation

Defend resolutely

Rely on an opposition mistake, or a stroke of genius (or luck) from someone.
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Just remembered when both Townsend and Ward attempted to cross the ball only for both of them to leave it to the other before Ward toepunted it out of play.

Jesus Christ yesterday was poor.
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Townsend and Zaha slow play down rather bomb into the box like Bolasie. Managment has been moving away from counter attacking since Pardew. Personally Ive never seen a problem with quick direct attacking play, we ponder under Hodgson knocking it about.
Agree with this. I find Hodgsonís style hard to watch. Either he hasnít got the right players to implement it or itís just dull to watch.
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