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Old 11-05-2019, 01:21 PM
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It was always his plan. Promise the electorate a completely undeliverable brexit. Step back while those in charge fail to deliver the undeliverable brexit. Then come back as some sort of saviour, promising to deliver brexit.

Of course, his clapping seal followers don't realise he's promising something completely different than he was in the referendum. But that requires a modicum of thought, which they are incapable of.

He is a despicable c**t of a human being, but he knows how to appeal to the brain dead masses.
Yeah but what did the other two parties offer in contrast...Utter confusion infighting and more to do with their own empowerment rather than the peoples.
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:27 PM
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Yeah but what did the other two parties offer in contrast...Utter confusion infighting and more to do with their own empowerment rather than the peoples.
I agree they are awful. But they were never going to be able to deliver what was promised, so Farage was always going to come back.

If they hadn't been so self interested and incompetent perhaps the brexit party wouldn't be leading the polls, which is hugely depressing.
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I agree they are awful. But they were never going to be able to deliver what was promised, so Farage was always going to come back.

If they hadn't been so self interested and incompetent perhaps the brexit party wouldn't be leading the polls, which is hugely depressing.
Yep,agree..Lets be honest there never was a plan to lose the referendum just unite the Tories after a No win to shut the Brexiters up in the party..Corbyn is secondary in this but a United Labour party for all would have helped.

The Brexit party would not exist and Farage would be still spouting his shit to a few on a radio station....If's and buts....
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First none on here even with all the banter should meet up's ever be considered(except for a beer),thats when you are talking ten year olds mentality,get you in the playground stuff....Then his Mum ?



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Old 11-05-2019, 01:37 PM
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It was always his plan. Promise the electorate a completely undeliverable brexit. Step back while those in charge fail to deliver the undeliverable brexit. Then come back as some sort of saviour, promising to deliver brexit.

Of course, his clapping seal followers don't realise he's promising something completely different than he was in the referendum. But that requires a modicum of thought, which they are incapable of.

He is a despicable c**t of a human being, but he knows how to appeal to the brain dead masses.
How do you know it was always his plan, that seems unlikely to me but perhaps you have some proven insight on this?
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First none on here even with all the banter should meet up's ever be considered(except for a beer),thats when you are talking ten year olds mentality,get you in the playground stuff....Then his Mum ?



Lets calm it down .....Ta
**** you Les. Mitcham Common. 12 noon tomorrow. Bet you dont make it you pussy.
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Maple syrup on Yorkshire pudding. Now yer talking
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:53 PM
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:58 PM
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Which is a microcosm of the despair many people ( myself included ) feel about the Left these days. You agree with the wish to bring some measure of economic justice back to our societies but are repelled by the Leftist monoculture, engendered in recent decades by militant opportunists, which damns all but a narrow channel of PC thought and quashes dissenting opinion through public shaming and citing so-called 'privileged' identity ( basically being born straight, white or male -all three is a real 'no-no' ) instead of allowing an open debate as to whether the Left has gone too far and allowed certain groups with very tribal agendas to set the moral tone and decide which kinds of people are acceptably in fashion and which aren't.

Of course, the Frankensteins of Radical Leftism / PC indoctrination / SJW militancy were monsters that fed themselves to grow from the justifiable anger, borne out of public frustration, at how Reagan & Thatcher basically removed a genuine Left-wing alternative from politics and handed the entire spectrum of our democracy and economy over to Plutocrats. But that's another story. It's still funny how the Right allows dissenting thought without resorting to character assassination, even if I could never vote along their lines.
This really is "disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" twaddle - are you even aware of your own red-faced chuntering?

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You are talking to.a poster that is the king gammon of the clique that accuse others of being gammon. The only one who stalks others to leave his angry idiot comments on users message boards because he gets so worked up he can't help himself, the type who refuses to accept an offer to meet at selhurst because he hasn't got the balls to repeat the bile he posts in person. You need to imagine you are talking to a ten year old to get through to the moth frotther of Horsham. Or just feel sorry for him , I mean it comes to something when his mother is more a man than he is .

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This really is "disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" twaddle - are you even aware of your own red-faced chuntering?

Give it up.
The bloke takes time to write two paragraphs but typically of those on your narrow minded, petty side of the fence, because his opinion does not coincide with yours, you respond in insulting one liner style

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This really is "disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" twaddle - are you even aware of your own red-faced chuntering?

Give it up.
Thanks for taking the time to explain specifically where the flaws in my opinion are rather than resorting to playground insults. This kind of ad hominem attack on someone you disagree with, instead of objective, intellectual engagement, is the prime reason why political discourse is now mired in tribalism, anger and increasing violence. Congratulations on contributing to this malaise. Hope you enjoyed writing your response you way you did.

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How do you know it was always his plan, that seems unlikely to me but perhaps you have some proven insight on this?
He's not an idiot. He knew what he and the leave campaigns promised was undeliverable. He had to step back from the reality of what a shitshow brexit would be so that he could come back shouting betrayal later on. And because of this, he now has a strong a foothold in british politics as he's ever had.

Of course none of this can be proven as fact, but the logic stacks up to me.

Why would you say it isn't likely?
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Which is a microcosm of the despair many people ( myself included ) feel about the Left these days. You agree with the wish to bring some measure of economic justice back to our societies but are repelled by the Leftist monoculture, engendered in recent decades by militant opportunists, which damns all but a narrow channel of PC thought and quashes dissenting opinion through public shaming and citing so-called 'privileged' identity ( basically being born straight, white or male -all three is a real 'no-no' ) instead of allowing an open debate as to whether the Left has gone too far and allowed certain groups with very tribal agendas to set the moral tone and decide which kinds of people are acceptably in fashion and which aren't.

Of course, the Frankensteins of Radical Leftism / PC indoctrination / SJW militancy were monsters that fed themselves to grow from the justifiable anger, borne out of public frustration, at how Reagan & Thatcher basically removed a genuine Left-wing alternative from politics and handed the entire spectrum of our democracy and economy over to Plutocrats. But that's another story. It's still funny how the Right allows dissenting thought without resorting to character assassination, even if I could never vote along their lines.
okay I'm game Mr Reasoned Argument - which sentence in the above is the bit where you actually evidence-base your daily mail diatribe against PC and "Leftism"?

You want a debate about whether the moral tone has been set by minority agendas - give me an example.

Far as I can see not allowing DJs to compare black babies to chimps is an improvement on letting Jim Davidson embarrass himself with Chalky White impressions.
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