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Old 23-10-2012, 09:22 PM
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Is Ashley Cole allowed to join? Personally I think Ferdinand is no better than John Terry after his comments about Cole. Also they're all completely selling out Clarke Carlisle with this move and is just going to create a rift in the game imo.
Worth repeating. Ferdinand is as big a hypocrite as dear old Dougie.
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I honestly don't think there's much racism in the uk game anymore, the likes of Ferdinand etc blow it all out of preportion just to be controversial and self important
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I honestly don't think there's much racism in the uk game anymore, the likes of Ferdinand etc blow it all out of preportion just to be controversial and self important
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Why is at a bad idea? they are ****ed off that 'Kick racism out of football' appears to them to be just a slogan and is not actually backed up by action.

Personally if that is how they feel, then the purpose of the Union is justified. To say how would people respond if there was one for white footballers is plainly daft. They do not suffer from racism when they are on a football pitch.
I don't like the idea of a Black Footballers Association one bit. It sounds to me like a single-issue and divisive organisation that could undo a lot of good work over the past 30 or so years.
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I don't like the idea of a Black Footballers Association one bit. It sounds to me like a single-issue and divisive organisation that could undo a lot of good work over the past 30 or so years.
I understand that, and it does seem like a step backwards, but the very fact they are considering it shows they are well pissed off with how racism is being dealt with within the game and this is the only way they feel they can tackle it.
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Old 23-10-2012, 10:32 PM
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Is this like the Black Police Officers Association?
The guy who set that up appears to be fronting this. No names of players yet, sounds like water is being tested before players commit.
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The guy who set that up appears to be fronting this. No names of players yet, sounds like water is being tested before players commit.
Thought I heard Jason Roberts name being mentioned earlier on 5 Live?
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Old 23-10-2012, 10:36 PM
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Just been reading that talks are taking place to set up a union solely for black footballers, because of they way racism is (not really) punished.

Isn't that in itself racist?

Who said footballers were thick........

Yes it is, if "white" players setup a white only ANYTHING it would be shouted down as racist
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Specifically said he wasn't, I thought.

Edit: here you go, from the bbc

However, Roberts said he was not part of the talks on a breakaway group, tweeting: "I can confirm that I have not been involved in any talks over a separate black players' union."
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Yes it is, if "white" players setup a white only ANYTHING it would be shouted down as racist
Stop being stupid, is there even he slightest shred of evidence that white people are discriminated against in football? You know, football. that game with all white refs, and almost exclusively all white managers, and a rather white FA.
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Specifically said he wasn't, I thought.

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Old 23-10-2012, 10:50 PM
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Stop being stupid, is there even he slightest shred of evidence that white people are discriminated against in football? You know, football. that game with all white refs, and almost exclusively all white managers, and a rather white FA.

why keep it to football, I filled in a survey today for the Kick it out campaign, I sugest you fill it in, some of the questions.............the one that sticks we me is about clubs being transparent in their managerial choices and them having to interview a black/ethnic manager for the position!!!!
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Yes it is, if "white" players setup a white only ANYTHING it would be shouted down as racist
Being somewhat ITK iro matters such as this I can confirm that what Adlerhorst says above is largely correct but perhaps incomplete, the feelings of "darkeys" being that they need to form their own associations/clubs within existing associations such as those for footballers or actors or singers, because the traditional representative associations are usually run by "crackers" or some other ethnic group who doesnt need to form their own, eg, "cracker" association cos they already run things

Can't fault them if they feel they need it imho
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There is a disproportionately small number of black managers that's true. And we are all aware of the issues, internationally particularly, with racism surrounding football.

But, can't help feeling this is a bad idea.
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There is a disproportionately small number of black managers that's true. And we are all aware of the issues, internationally particularly, with racism surrounding football.

But, can't help feeling this is a bad idea.
Maybe they cant cut the mustard?
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If the "kick it out" campaign represented the diversity of the races in football, it would have put pressure on the "bodies" they needed to address, but wearing a "T" shirt when something racist happens at football, does nothing, they been barking up the wrong tree for years, why has nobody questioned this? why did Ferdinand (or whoever) decide to set up their own version, why not publicly challenge the "kick it out" campaign to reform in the way they speak...................If it makes the whole ethos of the campaign to change, before it gets to separate bodies it has done its job, if it does go ahead, IMO its as racist as they are trying to prove
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There is a disproportionately small number of black managers that's true.
Not by much. 3 black managers in the league - Chris Houghton, Chris Powell and Keith Curle is 2.76% of the 92 clubs against 2.9% of the population (according to the Office for National Statistics).
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There are two sides to this which, aside from the police association that Godders alludes to, replete withTo view the link you have to Register or Login, has an established and welcome precedence in our culture (e.g. the MOBO Awards and Orange Prize for Fiction etc.)

The first position is speaks only detriment; that creating a body such as this has the potential to ghettoise its members and their contributions. There may well be some truth in this.

The second, towards which I feel obliged to declare that my rationale leers, is that some humans in this world have been historically and ergo residually still very much f'king are, subjected to vocal and unspoken prejudice, the hate, the persecution. As such, these humans are provoked to unite a concerted challenge, wherever they deem it necessary.

If Sepp "shake-a-cretin's-hand-half-an-hour-after-he-calls-you-a-dirty-n'gger" Blatter was championing an official anti-racist movement in my industry, especially in my name, I would also set up my own association.

Probably about ten minutes after I had shot him, at point blank range, on The One Show, right in his senselessly pendulous, hopelessly manilla-envelope-clutching, clueless, bubonic, balls.

With a bolt gun. Whilst under the influence of LSD.

However; what do I know?

My first choice from this current crop of ostensibly sentient & possibly available Palace managers is Mick McBarnsley.

If I could choose anyone though, it would be this fella:



(Photo taken during an undisclosed half-time teamtalk. I can't reveal who told me as it's sensitive info owen garvan mentioned it in an NCP carpark near Hounslow, but he's pointing to the top right-hand corner of the Bolton goal which he wants to "bulge," by "any cocking means necessary... Four sh'tting times in twenty minutes...")

I never (aside from the Palace players*) support the English National Team, but when the World and European Champion's supporters made monkey chants at Shaun Wright-Phillips, I was screaming for this Sceptred Isle, this country I was born and raised in, to put ten f'king goals past them.

So, yeah, that gurning representative of The Others, I should feel compassion towards him too, as we all should, towards those that need to park in the disabled bay, and I can see why he does, what with evolution being relative and all- an impairment to those who's has been ********- but John Terry wearing a 'kick it out' armband means f'k all; even to him.

Dock Serbia, Spain, Chelsea, Oldham Athletic, whoever else behaves in such a manner 15 points in their qualifying campaign / league.

Then we'll see what 'kick it out' really means.

And don't come crying about the poor white man to me, we all have ancestors borne of famine, dispossession and subjugation; this is different, this is some c'nt seeing your skin and trying to hurt you straight away.

F'k that and f'k all the Football Associations on this planet.






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At what shade do you become white?
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