Home | Forums | Galleries | Twitter
 
CPFC BBS  

Go Back   CPFC BBS Ľ Crystal Palace Football Club Ľ General Palace Discussion

Notices

General Palace Discussion General Palace talk - please keep transfer talk in the transfer forum.

View Poll Results: Who will end up the better player?
AWB 71 56.35%
Ashley Cole 52 41.27%
Moo! 3 2.38%
Voters: 126. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #21  
Old 07-02-2019, 09:32 AM
davematt's Avatar
davematt davematt is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Oxted, Surrey
Age: 33
Posts: 18,732
Rep Power: 9043772
davematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdavematt came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by gilesy14 View Post
Ashley Cole was the best left back & possibly full back in the world for a decade. AWB hasnít even completed a whole season yet. To even be having this discussion is mental.
This.

We need to calm down a tad.
__________________
Great moments are born from great opportunity...
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-02-2019, 09:36 AM
knowlesyUCLA's Avatar
knowlesyUCLA knowlesyUCLA is offline
We scored three...
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,221
Rep Power: 15466810
knowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietknowlesyUCLA came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by gilesy14 View Post
Ashley Cole was the best left back & possibly full back in the world for a decade. AWB hasnít even completed a whole season yet. To even be having this discussion is mental.
Stop making sense.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-02-2019, 09:42 AM
Owngoal's Avatar
Owngoal Owngoal is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Bromley
Posts: 18,780
Rep Power: 21474853
Owngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is hereOwngoal Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by 917L View Post
Not when he played for us he wasnít. He was instrumental in our survival that season

AWB looks like he could be up there with Cole and King Kenny if he continues progressing

However he wasnít so obviously standout as Cole was on his debut. Though of course Coles team mates and the opposition were of a lower calibre than AWBs
Several of us who saw AWBs first match did remark his first game showed the same promise of Kenny, Cole and Clyne and were told by others that it was too soon. However I felt the same after seeing the debut of each of them that they were something special. Only other defender to have felt that about was one Jim Cannon marking Osgood out of the game. We should be locking him into a better contract with a stupidly high release clause as by next summer he will be one of the most sought after players in Europe.
__________________
At least I score.............
Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you.........
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-02-2019, 10:30 AM
cockneyrebel cockneyrebel is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lewisham
Posts: 12,300
Rep Power: 21474851
cockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by gilesy14 View Post
Ashley Cole was the best left back & possibly full back in the world for a decade. AWB hasnít even completed a whole season yet. To even be having this discussion is mental.
Itís about potential. AWB is one of very few palace players that I think could be world class.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-02-2019, 10:31 AM
cockneyrebel cockneyrebel is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lewisham
Posts: 12,300
Rep Power: 21474851
cockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Since 1968 View Post
Who cares, itís totally irrelevant.
No one much. But no one is forcing you to go on the thread and comment
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 07-02-2019, 10:46 AM
jmemour's Avatar
jmemour jmemour is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 724
Rep Power: 9570463
jmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietjmemour came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by cockneyrebel View Post
Itís about potential. AWB is one of very few palace players that I think could be world class.
The word could is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Ashley Cole was world class. For ten years. I love AWB but let's calm down.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 07-02-2019, 10:55 AM
cockneyrebel cockneyrebel is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lewisham
Posts: 12,300
Rep Power: 21474851
cockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is herecockneyrebel Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmemour View Post
The word could is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Ashley Cole was world class. For ten years. I love AWB but let's calm down.
Donít think itís unusual to talk about potential and AWB has the most Iíve seen in a palace player for a while.

Maybe comparison with Cole is a bit OTT but itís harmless enough.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 07-02-2019, 12:37 PM
Away's Avatar
Away Away is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,587
Rep Power: 12394779
Away came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietAway came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
On top of everything else Cole oozed confidence when he was with us. He was a class above the opposition.

AWB seems more modest. He probably can't believe his luck to have broken into the first team and I think that comes through in his play sometimes when he prefers to give the ball to more senior players than to really express himself.

But it's a delight to watch him play and learn and progress. And he's Palace.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 07-02-2019, 12:46 PM
Latvian's Avatar
Latvian Latvian is offline
Bring him back!
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Shitting in Rufus Brevett's shed
Age: 36
Posts: 24,415
Rep Power: 14718446
Latvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLatvian came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Errr... Calm down folk. I love AWB a lot but he is no Ashley Cole. Cole made Ronaldo look stupid every time he played him domestically and internationally. Doesn't he hold an outfiled cap record for England? Cole was like PVA going forward and AWB at defending.

Next poll should be AWB vs. Maldini.
__________________
Palace are a neurochemical con job.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:06 PM
chrisophiex's Avatar
chrisophiex chrisophiex is offline
Selhurst Heaven
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,003
Rep Power: 21474845
chrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is here
Please read what the OP asked.....

"who do people think will end up the best player?"

End up, not now. It's called a discussion !
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:06 PM
kark's Avatar
kark kark is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,601
Rep Power: 15320668
kark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietkark came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
This thread and kind of thinking is ridiculous, Iím sorry. You cannot compare the two. Ashley Cole has achieved virtually everything in the game. AWB is an outstanding player and we all love him, but thereís no comparison at this stage, and this kind of pressure doesnít really help AWB either.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:18 PM
GrayP41ace's Avatar
GrayP41ace GrayP41ace is offline
Only One Dougie Freedman
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Walking in a Dougie Wonderland
Age: 34
Posts: 6,135
Rep Power: 21474850
GrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisophiex View Post
Please read what the OP asked.....

"who do people think will end up the best player?"

End up, not now. It's called a discussion !
Ahh, I've found the flaw in your thought process..... you've assumed people will read

In the interest of comparison, by 21 he broke into the Arsenal side that season due to an injury to Sylvinho and ended up with a Premier League and FA Cup winners medal his first full season 01/02. Not sure AWB will win the league this season, but FA Cup is possible. That said, Cole got his chance through injury, and were AWB at Liverpool or Man City currently, I would say he'd have a shot at starting were their 1st choice injured. Not as daft a comparison as it stands, like for like of course.
__________________
To make any lie all that more believable just add "In America....."

Last edited by GrayP41ace; 07-02-2019 at 01:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:19 PM
chrisophiex's Avatar
chrisophiex chrisophiex is offline
Selhurst Heaven
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,003
Rep Power: 21474845
chrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrayP41ace View Post
Ahh, I've found the flaw in your thought process..... you've assumed people will read
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:26 PM
Palace Bear's Avatar
Palace Bear Palace Bear is offline
He's got flair and hair
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Berkhamsted
Age: 34
Posts: 2,824
Rep Power: 10423234
Palace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Clearly impossible to judge the future, but for me Cole was near flawless when he played for us (in a pretty ropey team) albeit it was a long time ago, whereas AWB sometimes relies on his pace to get himself out of trouble he's got himself in sometimes.
Also think Cole was more confident going forwards, getting to the byline and crossing in.
No idea how their ages compare when Cole was here to AWB now but based on the above I went Cole.
__________________
Bye Bye Brighton.... Bye Bye.

Last edited by Palace Bear; 07-02-2019 at 01:28 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:27 PM
Palace Bear's Avatar
Palace Bear Palace Bear is offline
He's got flair and hair
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Berkhamsted
Age: 34
Posts: 2,824
Rep Power: 10423234
Palace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisophiex View Post
Please read what the OP asked.....

"who do people think will end up the best player?"

End up, not now. It's called a discussion !
But you can only really work that out by comparing Cole when he was with us to AWB now, to decide how AWB may pan out in comparison.
__________________
Bye Bye Brighton.... Bye Bye.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:31 PM
chrisophiex's Avatar
chrisophiex chrisophiex is offline
Selhurst Heaven
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,003
Rep Power: 21474845
chrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Palace Bear View Post
But you can only really work that out by comparing Cole when he was with us to AWB now, to decide how AWB may pan out in comparison.
Agree totally...and you must also bear in mind the quality of the opposition at the time he played for us. Clearly we all watched his career develop into something spectacular.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:47 PM
Palace Bear's Avatar
Palace Bear Palace Bear is offline
He's got flair and hair
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Berkhamsted
Age: 34
Posts: 2,824
Rep Power: 10423234
Palace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace Bear came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisophiex View Post
Agree totally...and you must also bear in mind the quality of the opposition at the time he played for us. Clearly we all watched his career develop into something spectacular.
And compare the team we had then and now eg: Cole had no one like the quality of Townsend motoring up and down to help him out.
__________________
Bye Bye Brighton.... Bye Bye.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 07-02-2019, 01:55 PM
chrisophiex's Avatar
chrisophiex chrisophiex is offline
Selhurst Heaven
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,003
Rep Power: 21474845
chrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is herechrisophiex Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Palace Bear View Post
And compare the team we had then and now eg: Cole had no one like the quality of Townsend motoring up and down to help him out.
Good point.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 07-02-2019, 02:04 PM
GrayP41ace's Avatar
GrayP41ace GrayP41ace is offline
Only One Dougie Freedman
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Walking in a Dougie Wonderland
Age: 34
Posts: 6,135
Rep Power: 21474850
GrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is hereGrayP41ace Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Palace Bear View Post
And compare the team we had then and now eg: Cole had no one like the quality of Townsend motoring up and down to help him out.
Equally, Cole had no one like Hazard, Anderson, Salah, Sane, Sterling running at him in the Championship.
__________________
To make any lie all that more believable just add "In America....."
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 07-02-2019, 03:41 PM
Jordan555x's Avatar
Jordan555x Jordan555x is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Bromley
Age: 25
Posts: 2,226
Rep Power: 11906207
Jordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietJordan555x came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Its a discussion.

Why do people on this forum feel the need to shut down every conversation like some sort of forum police?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.