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I have a strong feeling that once Wilf leaves it will strangely make us stronger as a club and team. We rely so much on him and all our focus is through him. Replace him with someone young and exciting and fill the missing positions and I think we could be better off. Obviously I do rate Wilf, but think the whole situation has dragged us as a club, team and fan base down over the last 12 months.
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I think itís because most fellow eagles donít see Leicester as a big club( no offence intended Leicester 1). Rich club for sure , if he went to one of the heavy weights here or in Europe then that would be more acceptable imo.
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When i join in conversations regarding who Leicester should buy i always go for young Wilf.
By the January transfer window he will be 27 (on November 10th), I'm not sure you could still call him "young" Wilf. Still young enough obviously to improve, but it's getting to be now or never I would think.
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I have a strong feeling that once Wilf leaves it will strangely make us stronger as a club and team. We rely so much on him and all our focus is through him. Replace him with someone young and exciting and fill the missing positions and I think we could be better off. Obviously I do rate Wilf, but think the whole situation has dragged us as a club, team and fan base down over the last 12 months.
I tend to agree now. The key is using the money wisely but with a deteriorating market value and the wankers' percentage it may not be enough.
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If Leicester beat Arsenal at the weekend opens up quite a bit of a gap and even though early season would be fairly confident Leicester will finish in the top 4.

Certainly possible Zaha may fancy a move there with Champions League football on offer.
Of course he would a fancy a move there, no other decent club wants him.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:29 AM
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Think would have better chance of being regular starter at arsenal and Leicester then he would at Chelsea but not sure living in Leicester ahead of London would appeal to zaha.
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I have a strong feeling that once Wilf leaves it will strangely make us stronger as a club and team. We rely so much on him and all our focus is through him. Replace him with someone young and exciting and fill the missing positions and I think we could be better off. Obviously I do rate Wilf, but think the whole situation has dragged us as a club, team and fan base down over the last 12 months.
I think of it like this. If Wilf is an injury-doubt pre-match, do I look at the final teamsheet & feel pleased that he's not there or relieved that he is?

It's the latter for me. I understand that all the 'Is he leaving or is he staying?' hullabaloo is undeniably unhelpful but I can't think that we will be stronger without him.

You're right that it is all dependent on which replacements we bring in but, whilst I appreciate the Guaita, Cahill & Ayew have all been shrewd additions to the team, I just don't trust us to spend any Wilf money well. Of course, I'd love to be wrong.
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Iíve got a feeling there will be a player plus cash deal but have a feeling itíll be Reece James heading our way
I don't think James is going anywhere, he is class and I think Lampard knows that I am afraid.
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I think of it like this. If Wilf is an injury-doubt pre-match, do I look at the final teamsheet & feel pleased that he's not there or relieved that he is?

It's the latter for me. I understand that all the 'Is he leaving or is he staying?' hullabaloo is undeniably unhelpful but I can't think that we will be stronger without him.

You're right that it is all dependent on which replacements we bring in but, whilst I appreciate the Guaita, Cahill & Ayew have all been shrewd additions to the team, I just don't trust us to spend any Wilf money well. Of course, I'd love to be wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely would prefer him in the team than not on match day, but that's my short term thinking. Long term wise, he needs to go for him and more importantly for us. Every game now he is being over analysed with "he doesn't give a f--k, he's downed tools, his mind is elsewhere, not trying" and so on. Only he knows if the above is true.
If and it's a big if, we can sell him and buy younger elsewhere with hunger and desire then I'm all for it. We need to balance our squad now. FTR, there is no way I would have said any of the above 12 months ago and the thought of losing him scared the shit out of me. Not now.
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Don't get me wrong, I absolutely would prefer him in the team than not on match day, but that's my short term thinking. Long term wise, he needs to go for him and more importantly for us. Every game now he is being over analysed with "he doesn't give a f--k, he's downed tools, his mind is elsewhere, not trying" and so on. Only he knows if the above is true.
If and it's a big if, we can sell him and buy younger elsewhere with hunger and desire then I'm all for it. We need to balance our squad now. FTR, there is no way I would have said any of the above 12 months ago and the thought of losing him scared the shit out of me. Not now.
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Once Wilf's wages are taken into account then any buying club are looking at an outlay in excess of £120m to sign him and that is if Palace were prepared to sell him for £80m which with the Man United sell-on percentage seems unlikely.

Speculation means nothing unless Palace are prepared to sell him and any valuation is met by any suitor for a player who has no release clause in his long contract.

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Once Wilf's wages are taken into account then any buying club are looking at an outlay in excess of £120m to sign him and that is if Palace were prepared to sell him for £80m which with the Man United sell-on percentage seems unlikely.

Speculation means nothing unless Palace are prepared to sell him and any valuation is met by any suitor for a player who has no release clause in his long contract.

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Palace have already confirmed they are prepared to sell him, and any valuation we had prior to the season starting will have gone down.

Right now there is less and less sense in retaining him and all the while his value is dropping to both us and any buying club.
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Once Wilf's wages are taken into account then any buying club are looking at an outlay in excess of £120m to sign him and that is if Palace were prepared to sell him for £80m which with the Man United sell-on percentage seems unlikely.

Speculation means nothing unless Palace are prepared to sell him and any valuation is met by any suitor for a player who has no release clause in his long contract.

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Palace have said that they will sell if the money is right to do so and it is right for Wilf.

At 26/27 he should really be approaching the peak of his career so if he is going to make the move i would expect it to be either in January or in the summer next year.

After the sell on cut has been taken out we could be only left with around £40 Million to replace him. A tough ask under current market conditions.

If it doesn't happen then maybe he will spend the rest of his career at Palace like Le Tissier did at Southampton?!

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Leicester City in the Premier league: 14th, 1st, 12th, 9th, 9th, currently 3rd.

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So, other than their amazing title winning season theyíve finished 3 places above us once, 2 places above us twice and 4 places below us once.

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So, other than their amazing title winning season they’ve finished 3 places above us once, 2 places above us twice and 4 places below us once.

‘So far in front of us”?
Yep, I would describe that as pretty far in front of us (and I don’t see much logic in removing the fact that they won the league from the equation). Particularly when you consider the current circumstances too. We have the joint oldest squad in the league with Burnley, will hobble along to mid table, and will likely go the way of Stoke in the next two or three years if we don’t adjust our transfer policy. Leicester have one of the most exciting young squads in all of Europe, and look a great bet for top 6.

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Palace have already confirmed they are prepared to sell him, and any valuation we had prior to the season starting will have gone down.

Right now there is less and less sense in retaining him and all the while his value is dropping to both us and any buying club.
Don't think anything has changed moneywise sp doesnt like losing money he will state around 80 mill and will hold out close to that if zaha contract was close to running out it would be different .don't think zaha average form this season will put clubs off they will already know what he is capable of doing might put a club like man city off as they would nt want a player who runs hot and cold but a everton arsenal Leicester w ham ect would be ok with this as long as he improves there squad which he would
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Funnily enough I was thinking this while we were playing them on Saturday - shame to think they're so far ahead of us but there you go.

Think it would genuinely piss me off less than if he went to an Everton or Arsenal tbh.
Shame to think they are ahead of us?

They won the Premier League what is there to be miffed about?
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