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Old 20-09-2020, 07:56 PM
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I agree. One of the (many) reasons Priti Patel gets so much stick is that she is not part of the establishment, my Westminster spies tell me.
The main reason is that she is a cold impersonal unfeeling, utterly uncaring human being loved by the far right for her appalling attitude to asylum seekers fleeing war persecution and discrimination including horrendous domestic violence. As befits her type the well documented bullying allegations made by many have mysteriously yet to see the light of day. A disreputable human being of course loved by the mail and telegraph.
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Winchester, Oxford, Stanford, hedge fund manager... I know you're alluding to his race, but I don't think that's nearly as much of an issue in the Tory party today as possibly years gone by. He has much more in common with shire Tories than most white people.

I reckon the first BAME party leader and probably PM will be a Tory.
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Old 20-09-2020, 08:14 PM
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Dido Harding the Tory Peer, wife of a Tory MP, and head of the disastrous Test and Trace... AND head of the newly formed National Institute for Health Protection, that one?

Neither civil service position was advertised or indeed was anybody else interviewed... that one?

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Old 20-09-2020, 08:14 PM
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Winchester, Oxford, Stanford, hedge fund manager... I know you're alluding to his race, but I don't think that's nearly as much of an issue in the Tory party today as possibly years gone by. He has much more in common with shire Tories than most white people.

I reckon the first BAME party leader and probably PM will be a Tory.
I agree, the Tories will pick him if he is most likely to win and he will be much harder for opponents to attack. He will take over as Tory leader and then win a bigger majority.
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Old 20-09-2020, 08:16 PM
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The very same.

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It is constitutionally outrageous that a sitting Tory Peer is simply handed two senior civil service positions.
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I agree. One of the (many) reasons Priti Patel gets so much stick is that she is not part of the establishment, my Westminster spies tell me.
It’s that she is a vapid careerist and beard for right wing Tories and petty nationalists

She’s awful
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Old 20-09-2020, 08:34 PM
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Will the Red Wall like Sunak, as well?
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Old 20-09-2020, 08:40 PM
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The main reason is that she is a cold impersonal unfeeling, utterly uncaring human being loved by the far right for her appalling attitude to asylum seekers fleeing war persecution and discrimination including horrendous domestic violence. As befits her type the well documented bullying allegations made by many have mysteriously yet to see the light of day. A disreputable human being of course loved by the mail and telegraph.
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Old 21-09-2020, 12:24 AM
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Big scandal breaking this morning - Tories in bed with the Kremlin / receiving millions in dirty money...

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Why do I think that none of this shit will stick? We have own version of Trump in charge and he'll just waffle away and deny knowledge and it'll all be forgotten about
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Old 21-09-2020, 01:14 AM
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I agree totally that jobs should be advertised and awarded on merit.

Factors of connections, gender, race, sexual preference etc should be irrelevant.

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QUOTE=Ruskin Old Boy;15416265]The very same.

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Old 21-09-2020, 05:55 AM
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Will the Red Wall like Sunak, as well?
That's a different story, of course. And it also shines an unwelcome light on hitherto Labour supporters' attitudes.
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Old 21-09-2020, 07:37 AM
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Of course, and it’s one of the things this Tory party was able to speak to. But if Sunak breaks up that coalition, they’ll need another one if they want to win.
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Old 21-09-2020, 07:45 AM
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I agree. One of the (many) reasons Priti Patel gets so much stick is that she is not part of the establishment, my Westminster spies tell me.
its for more likely that she is out of her depth.
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Old 21-09-2020, 07:47 AM
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Even with an 80 seat majority the Tories are not certain to get through to a full term. The catastrophe of a no deal/trade war that the ERG types want is going to cause major internal problems for them.
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I think the tories want Sunak as he's popular with the public and (so far) seems competent the problem is despite him having a Tory background his race is going to be a hurdle because of the membership choosing the leader (a decision that both parties probably regret) its not just hedge fund managers with soul patches and hooray Henrys who think Dubai is a decent holiday destination he has to win over its rural pensioners who make up a disproportionate amount of the membership and some people are just too set in their ways.

Tory voters no problem with a BAME leader, tory members on the other hand...

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its for more likely that she is out of her depth.
I said it is one of the reasons. She is shit, obviously.
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The public like Sunak because he has been handing out freebies and smiles a lot, when the freebies end so will his popularity.
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"Oh mister Wokeman, We will continue to take a stand against you and your anti-Britsh, anti-free speech agenda. Socialism is not the answer and time will demonstrate what a real idiot you are! #ProBrexit, #ProBoris, #ProTrump Flag of United Kingdom"

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Written several replies and deleted them again.

We need to have a discussion about the quality of our MPs and their conduct because, whatever your political views, stuff like this should go straight in the bin.
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The main reason is that she is a cold impersonal unfeeling, utterly uncaring human being loved by the far right for her appalling attitude to asylum seekers fleeing war persecution and discrimination including horrendous domestic violence. As befits her type the well documented bullying allegations made by many have mysteriously yet to see the light of day. A disreputable human being of course loved by the mail and telegraph.
Yep. I also think that her gender and colour work against her. Not in the same way it does for most levels of racism though - let me explain:

As humans, I think it is well documented that we subconsciously see females as mothers - caring, loving, etc. One of the great film baddies of all time is Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, but I am sure that if she was cast as a bloke then the character would not be nearly as memorable for being so evil. Patel appears to have all the warmth of a frozen Titanic victim, and as a woman, this makes appear much worse than her fellow counterparts like Raab and Gove. Quite unfair really.

And then her background. Having such an open disdain for immigrants, when her own parents both came here after being born in Uganda... It feels almost like she is betraying her own roots, similar to when you have a Conservative MP voting for cost cutting measures against welfare payments or the NHS, despite the fact that they grew up in a council house.

It is probably unfair to think these things about her, whether we realise we are doing so or not. I think besides her pretty awful behaviour though, it is probably why she is disliked to the level she is.

Ps, her signature smirk - it is not a smile, but a smirk - doesn't help her. ****.
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