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Old 20-11-2020, 04:47 PM
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Legal age of consent

UK law seems pretty straightforward - Its 16
Personally I think thats about right and it's all about how the law is enforced.
Would we prosecute two 15 year olds in a relationship? Probably not, but a 16 yo lad and a one night stand with a 14 yo it gets tricky

It gets very complicated elsewhere with 'consent' being linked to marriage and an array of conditions.

Amazingly the US federal age is 12 but almost all states its 16 unless you are married. But you can marry at 13 or 14 in some states!

In Nigeria its 11
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I think it's about reasonable, when you look at the notion of public interest. Two fifteen year olds, wouldn't be prosecuted, as both would technically have commited an offence.

I think it allows reasonable scope, and the idea that 13 or younger is automatically an offence of rape rather than unlawful sexual intercourse provides a good basis.

As the offence requires a complaint, and a conviction without the evidence of the victim is going to be very difficult, sixteen seems reasonable.

Though I find the idea of grown men going with sixteen to eighteen year olds disturbing. Not so long ago I had three eighteen year old female apprentices assigned to me. I couldn't even find frames of shared conversational topics, and felt more protective of them, than attracted to them. Which was a weird feeling
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UK law seems pretty straightforward - Its 16
Personally I think thats about right and it's all about how the law is enforced.
Would we prosecute two 15 year olds in a relationship? Probably not, but a 16 yo lad and a one night stand with a 14 yo it gets tricky

It gets very complicated elsewhere with 'consent' being linked to marriage and an array of conditions.

Amazingly the US federal age is 12 but almost all states its 16 unless you are married. But you can marry at 13 or 14 in some states!

In Nigeria its 11
Have you been charged yet?
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... you could find yourself in Court very easily?
One of my first girlfriends, and TBF I have had very few, was 15 when de met. I was 17.

I remember in 5th form there were girls showing off about their army cadete boyfriends.

Teenage girls tend, or tended, to mature quicker than boys.

In the kid's home I attended 79-83 a returning adult (18/19) had a relationship and got a 15 year old pregnant. Social services had their work cut out. The police weren't involved, the couple and baby were still together for at least 6 or 7 years...

There were a few relationships of that kind.
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Should be 18, but a one year age gap down to 16 (so 17 year old can sleep with a 16 year old, a 30 year old cannot).

Didn’t the Sun or Star or one of them do a countdown to Lindsay Dawn MacKenzies 16th birthday, then have her topless on the day?

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Should be 18, but a one year age gap down to 16 (so 17 year old can sleep with a 16 year old, a 30 year old cannot).

Didnít the Sun or Star or one of them do a countdown to Lindsay Dawn MacKenzies 16th birthday, then have her topless on the day?

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Should be 18, but a one year age gap down to 16 (so 17 year old can sleep with a 16 year old, a 30 year old cannot).

Didn’t the Sun or Star or one of them do a countdown to Lindsay Dawn MacKenzies 16th birthday, then have her topless on the day?

Sheer noncery
Agree that the main age of consent should be 18. I think that’s the first time that someone can reasonably be considered an adult in the U.K.

Would personally expand the “one year age gap” to two, and make it so that it literally has to be at least 24 months. Otherwise that’d legally make me a nonce victim for losing it to a girl a grand total of one year above me at school, who just had a September birthday vs my May.

To be honest, taking school/uni years into account would make some sense, but is probably just too difficult to legislate. An 18 year old uni fresher and a 16 year old year 12 would be very seedy, though I bet it’s more common than I think. There’s such a huge maturity and life experience gap between university student and sixth former.

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In general or with underage girls?
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Should be 18, but a one year age gap down to 16 (so 17 year old can sleep with a 16 year old, a 30 year old cannot).
The practicalities of this are baffling, so you have a 17 year old and a 16 year old having a legal, consensual sexual relationship for 6 months, then he turns 18 and suddenly he's a nonce?

The point of consent is that the party/person is of an age where they have the ability to make reasoned choices about what they do with their body (and with who).

Much as the concept of a 40 year old and a 16 year is a bit repulsive to me, either we acknowledge the 16 year old is able to make the choice or not, extra rules merely add complexity where it isn't needed,especially as you already have laws in place for peopple in a position of trust etc. to prevent teachers etc. taking advantage.
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UK law seems pretty straightforward - Its 16
Personally I think thats about right and it's all about how the law is enforced.
Would we prosecute two 15 year olds in a relationship? Probably not, but a 16 yo lad and a one night stand with a 14 yo it gets tricky

It gets very complicated elsewhere with 'consent' being linked to marriage and an array of conditions.

Amazingly the US federal age is 12 but almost all states its 16 unless you are married. But you can marry at 13 or 14 in some states!

In Nigeria its 11
Worth noting the age of consent might be lower in other countries, if you travel to take advantage of it, you can be prosecuted in the UK on your return.
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The practicalities of this are baffling, so you have a 17 year old and a 16 year old having a legal, consensual sexual relationship for 6 months, then he turns 18 and suddenly he's a nonce?

The point of consent is that the party/person is of an age where they have the ability to make reasoned choices about what they do with their body (and with who).

Much as the concept of a 40 year old and a 16 year is a bit repulsive to me, either we acknowledge the 16 year old is able to make the choice or not, extra rules merely add complexity where it isn't needed,especially as you already have laws in place for peopple in a position of trust etc. to prevent teachers etc. taking advantage.
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The practicalities of this are baffling, so you have a 17 year old and a 16 year old having a legal, consensual sexual relationship for 6 months, then he turns 18 and suddenly he's a nonce?

The point of consent is that the party/person is of an age where they have the ability to make reasoned choices about what they do with their body (and with who).

Much as the concept of a 40 year old and a 16 year is a bit repulsive to me, either we acknowledge the 16 year old is able to make the choice or not, extra rules merely add complexity where it isn't needed,especially as you already have laws in place for peopple in a position of trust etc. to prevent teachers etc. taking advantage.
At 16 you can give consent. Between 14 and sixteen you can consent but it's not lawful for older individuals to engage n sexual activity with yoiu. At 13 or younger you cannot consent and sexual acts are rape
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