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Old 07-11-2018, 08:28 PM
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Nevertheless, the way it works is you have to be sure what crime has been committed, and then be sure who did it before you send anyone to prison. Seems reasonable enough.
Half the people on this site have already decided who is guilty. President May wasn't there, round up the usual suspects.

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Old 07-11-2018, 08:41 PM
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So you’re in favour of Sharia law punishment rather than the redress offered by our own legal system then?

Feck me, what is this country descending into.
I suspect he was not being entirely serious.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:45 PM
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So you’re in favour of Sharia law punishment rather than the redress offered by our own legal system then?

Feck me, what is this country descending into.
WTF. How did you read that as Sharia Law? Jeez some people will read whatever they want into a comment. Besides didn't the jews stone people as punishment. That wasn't sharia law. Actually if I could decide what would happen to scammers it would be far more painful than stoning

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How can the true culprits be punished if the evidence is suppressed ?

The government has been accused of “unforgivable cowardice” after it emerged experts hired to test cladding in the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire were banned from criticising Theresa May.

A contract signed with engineering firm WSP just 12 days after the disaster stipulated the investigation must not generate “adverse publicity” for the Cabinet Office or other bodies, including Number 10.

The Cabinet Office insisted the clause was a standard feature of contracts across the public and private sector and was not aimed at silencing whistleblowers or criticism of government policy.



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Old 08-11-2018, 07:27 AM
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How is that “suppression” of evidence?
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:17 AM
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I found that article sensationalist. At first I thought the journalist had a point, but then I read that it’s an engineering firm employed to test the current cladding....that’s it. It’s not employed as part of the Grenfell inquiry and that’s not its role under this contract.

I agree with Maz that this specific contract is therefore not a suppression of evidence re Grenfell. And if any engineering firm employed to study the Grenfell cladding felt they wouldn’t be able to give their evidence honestly in court, then they should speak up about that and reconsider whether they have a conflict of interests etc.

That said, I would have thought that an engineering firm is employed to give technical and factual advice to the inquiry....but apportioning the blame for any problems, rules and regulations etc would not be within their remit.

It’s normal practice to have confidentiality and embarrassment clauses in such contracts, not just in government. Most of us probably have them in our staff contracts...I often have.

To put it in a Palace fictional context...such clauses would prevent Lewington giving an interview to Sky saying Hodgson is utterly hopeless and never turns up to work. Ray would be considered disloyal for that, he had publicly undermined Roy’s authority and would be sacked by Parish. Parish could quote this embarrassment clause if Lewington said his dismissal was unfair.

But the clause would not prevent Ray from going to the police, or informing Parish, if he knew Hodgson had done something illegal.
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No one feeding from the taxpayer funded trough will be found guilty.

Those DEAD are nothing more than political point scoring and are already forgotten. The fire brigade are Nazis, though!
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No one feeding from the taxpayer funded trough will be found guilty.

Those DEAD are nothing more than political point scoring and are already forgotten. The fire brigade are Nazis, though!
Indeed. They really need to slam into the ALMO and RBKC, but they won't, and there will be no criminal charges.
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Indeed. They really need to slam into the ALMO and RBKC, but they won't, and there will be no criminal charges.
Too many "friends in high places" for anybody in RBKC to be prosecuted...
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