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Old 21-10-2020, 02:42 PM
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No, its possible that some may be illegal immigrants within the US, it doesn't follow that they all are, and it raises an interesting question immediately is how do you determine if a child has legal status, if you don't know who their parents are.

After all, if their parents are US citizens, by default so are their children.

The failure of the US to treat children humanly and decently, pretty much flies in the face of all laws regarding the protection of children in society and the role of society in the protection of minors, to fulfil a political goal.

In essence the US is punishing children, for the assumed crimes of their parents (given that virtually none of these children seem to have been of the age of criminal liability at the time of detention).
NO, no, no, the whole premise of this is wrong they are not in prison they are not being punished. How do you know they aren't being treated humanely or decently, I don't see that at all. They are unclaimed by the parents.
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Old 21-10-2020, 02:44 PM
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It is as you say, but sadly it will make headlines for all of 6 hours, if that.

And Skvnt wouldn't recognise facts if they came and smashed him in the face. Blaming the victims - who just so happen to be children and parents of colour - is psychopathically evil.
They are mostly from central america you are unique in describing them as coloured, a quaint old fashioned term in any event.
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Old 21-10-2020, 02:48 PM
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ASYLYM SEEKERS ARE NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
Once again you spread pathetic disinformation.
I'm not the American justice system but if they were granted asylum they wouldn't be detained.
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Old 21-10-2020, 02:50 PM
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So how do you claim them? Just phone up or write a letter to the US ICE? How do you prove that 'Kid A' is your kid. Only way I could think of would be by DNA testing.

I'm sure the US is willing to pay for that.
I'm sure that's exactly how they do it. I suspect all you have to do is prove you're who you say you are. The cost of detaining someone is so high that a DNA test would be regarded as peanuts.
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Old 21-10-2020, 02:53 PM
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He's just a ....insert epithet of choice here......

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Old 21-10-2020, 02:55 PM
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They are mostly from central america you are unique in describing them as coloured, a quaint old fashioned term in any event.
The US considers Latin Americans and even Spaniards to be people of colour, surely you can't have missed this?
Recently the American press defined Antonio Banderas as one of the few "people of color (sic)" nominated for an Oscar.
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Old 21-10-2020, 02:58 PM
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The US considers Latin Americans and even Spaniards to be people of colour, surely you can't have missed this?
Recently the American press defined Antonio Banderas as one of the few "people of color (sic)" nominated for an Oscar.
I have missed it, I'll stop taking holiday's in the sun (if we ever back to that) in case with a tan I lose my white privilege.
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Old 21-10-2020, 02:59 PM
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I'm not the American justice system but if they were adjudicated as asylum seekers they wouldn't be detained.
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I'm not the American justice system but if they were adjudicated as asylum seekers they wouldn't be detained.
You maybe want to give this some thought, and then delete it.


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Old 21-10-2020, 03:02 PM
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You maybe want to give this some thought, and then delete it.


It doesn't reflect well on your brain power.
Nope but I will re-word it.
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Old 21-10-2020, 03:04 PM
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You are the nastiest piece of lying, psychopathic piece of sh*te on the BBS.
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Old 21-10-2020, 03:05 PM
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Still doesn't work. How long do you think it takes the States to adjudicate on asylum? You think asylum seekers turn up with all the official "Asylum-seeker Paperwork"?
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Old 21-10-2020, 03:18 PM
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NO, no, no, the whole premise of this is wrong they are not in prison they are not being punished. How do you know they aren't being treated humanely or decently, I don't see that at all. They are unclaimed by the parents.
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Still doesn't work. How long do you think it takes the States to adjudicate on asylum? You think asylum seekers turn up with all the official "Asylum-seeker Paperwork"?
It doesn't matter the 545 are still unclaimed, they won't be the children of asylum seekers as the US would know where those parents where.
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Forget about the politics for a moment. Forget about ICE, border walls, case processing and 2016 election promises. This is about children - toddlers. They don't know why they were walking all the way to the US. All they knew is that they trusted and needed their parents more than ever. To now be in a situation where they may never see their parents again - all in the name of political points scoring is inhumane.

The very fact that the people doing this work are supporting the wishes of a leadership who pertain to care about the "life" of an unborn is twisted and macabre. These kids were born and are being treated as little more that an example. The example being, "IF you undertake the journey, this will happen to you and your kids." Is was a straightforward solution in the mind of Stephen Miller. But remember , the families of these kids didn't expect this to happen. It hadn't happened to migrants from Central America before. They were the pawns in Miller's sick experiment and they re the ones who will always live with the pain and scars.

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Old 21-10-2020, 03:36 PM
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Forget about the politics for a moment. Forget about ICE, border walls, case processing and 2016 election promises. This is about children - toddlers. They don't know why they were walking all the way to the US. All they knew is that they trusted and needed their parents more than ever. To now be in a situation where they may never see their parents again - all in the name of political points scoring is inhumane.
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Other than open borders which no one will vote for I see no alternative to detaining illegals and that inevitably means putting the children into care.

The original question was about the 545 who have no parents coming forward. I see no serious comment here on how to deal with that situation. There's some posturing about empathy and compassion but as I see it all empathy and compassion in the world won't find the parents. Oh yeah and some nonsense about not being able to contact the US government.
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