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Old 06-04-2021, 06:55 PM
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Wasn't that what Hong kong was founded on? I have yet to meet a white American who has said that Chauvin has done nothing wrong. Every single person has condemned him. You really should try and leave your pathetic, self loathing, prejudices to yourself.
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Well the use-of-force trainer who trained Chauvin in 2018 certainly dispelled that theory this morning.

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The defence lawyer seemed to pull him apart at end of his testimony!
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Old 06-04-2021, 07:17 PM
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The defence lawyer seemed to pull him apart at end of his testimony!
Not sure pull apart is the right term, but yes he got the officer to admit Chauvin could have got additional training from another source.

Asked by defense attorney Eric Nelson if Chauvin's technique could be part of another training, Mercil said, "perhaps," adding that it might be considered "using body weight to control."
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Don’t suppose it matters what he gets sentenced with really. I imagine he will be got at when he is properly behind bars anyway.
Won’t go anywhere near the general prison population will he
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It does not take much effort to find people in real time desperate for Chauvin to be found innocent. But yeah, self-loathing LOL, whataboutism LOL.

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An irony wasted on these Muppets is that fentynal is a very potent opiate to the literal.point that an eight year old girl could probably restrain someone on a fentynal. It's super heroin designed specifically as a painkiller that absolutely prevents you moving around. It make morphine look like a performance enhancing drug

It wouldn't matter in theory that opiates depress the respiratory system, all the prosecution needs to show is that an illegal use of force inhibited breathing, it only has to be a contributory factor in cause of death.

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Won’t go anywhere near the general prison population will he
He'll be taken in by the Brotherhood. Normally they're not fans of cops but protecting him will get them some Blue favours.
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Old 06-04-2021, 08:08 PM
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An irony wasted on these Muppets is that fentynal is a very potent opiate to the literal.point that an eight year old girl could probably restrain someone on a fentynal. It's super heroin designed specifically as a painkiller that absolutely prevents you moving around. It make morphine look like a performance enhancing drug
Although of course in this instance, his tolerance level towards the drug was unusually high due to his prolonged use, with the added bonus of some meth mixed in
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He'll be taken in by the Brotherhood. Normally they're not fans of cops but protecting him will get them some Blue favours.
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Old 06-04-2021, 08:15 PM
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Well hopefully they find no favours from his buddies in blue and instead use him as a meat puppet
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Won’t go anywhere near the general prison population will he
There’s always a way. Happens all the time in the States.
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Old 06-04-2021, 08:53 PM
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He'll be with the nonces and general sex offenders. At least he would be if it was the UK. I assume it's similar there.
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Old 06-04-2021, 09:26 PM
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He'll be with the nonces and general sex offenders. At least he would be if it was the UK. I assume it's similar there.
I'm not sure being banged up with people who don't understand consent as a concept is necessarily that much better.
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Not sure pull apart is the right term, but yes he got the officer to admit Chauvin could have got additional training from another source.

Asked by defense attorney Eric Nelson if Chauvin's technique could be part of another training, Mercil said, "perhaps," adding that it might be considered "using body weight to control."
The defence lawyer showed him some dodgy pictures and got him to admit the knee wasn’t in George’s neck.

Unfortunately I think the defence are doing their job
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The defence lawyer showed him some dodgy pictures and got him to admit the knee wasn’t in George’s neck.

Unfortunately I think the defence are doing their job
OK thanks, I didn't see or hear about that.
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I think the prosecution are in danger of losing the jury if they keep Bringing all these experts to the stand to more or less say the same thing.

Apparently a few of the jury were nodding off today.
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Surely the prosecution have struck gold with this expert witness. A Doctor explaining how George Floyd was fighting for air whilst the police held him in positions that restricted his breathing.
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Surely the prosecution have struck gold with this expert witness. A Doctor explaining how George Floyd was fighting for air whilst the police held him in positions that restricted his breathing.
The Pulmonology Expert (Doctor Tobin) today is far from boring. He is explaining in very straightforward terms how the mechanism of breathing works and how it can be interfered with and restricted.

I've learned a new medical word.

This expert is apparently pre eminent in his field and is giving his time and expertise for free.

This testimony for me shows that George Floyd was effectively tortured to death in public.
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The Pulmonology Expert (Doctor Tobin) today is far from boring. He is explaining in very straightforward terms how the mechanism of breathing works and how it can be interfered with and restricted.

I've learned a new medical word.

This expert is apparently pre eminent in his field and is giving his time and expertise for free.

This testimony for me shows that George Floyd was effectively tortured to death in public.
Exactly what I wanted to say...... Lock Chauvin up and throw away the key now!
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As is usual with any debate where Race is even partially the issue, those who inhabit the extreme ends of political worldview will be tone deaf when it comes to evidence or argument which does not correspond with that worldview. Those determined to see this death as nothing more than a racist murder will find excuses to dismiss the drugs found in Floyd or the fact cops use these restraint tactics routinely. It was a racist murder, nothing more. Those who most distrust the Woke / CRT worldview will try to minimize the brutal actions of the police and try to find excuses to explain how so little consideration was given to the fact that Floyd became silent and still long before he died and that was surely a sign he no longer needed so much weight upon him.

I doubt we can ever know what was truly in the minds of these officers but the fact is this story would never have reached global attention if some white, drug-addict criminal had died in police restraint. This has been turned into a Race issue by activists and media, Western society will continue to suffer for it and any 'truth' gets lost in the shuffle of all the culture wars.

I fear three things are inevitable;

1. This tragedy / atrocity will not be allowed to remain in perspective and many more people will be killed in new riots.

2. The groundwork for yet more cultural 'cold war' will be laid so that the next incident that can be inflamed into yet more division, destruction and death is already laid.

3. The larger ( in terms of protecting the lives of ALL ( forbidden word for some ) people arrested in the future by U.S. police ) issue to police tactics dealing with such situations will be smothered by Race. As Floyd's death ( and many others ) proves, it is a serious and complex issue deciding how police can best protect themselves from the very real dangers of physical confrontation without endangering the lives of suspects any more than is necessary. That will require sober, fact-based, objective study and the situation over there is about as far from objective as any society can stand without falling apart.

And, at the end of it, there will be no widespread agreement as to what happened to George Floyd. We don't have telepathy. All we know is more people will die both at the hands of the police and in the riots which are surely coming. I'd hope for sanity and a desire to reduce conflict but there's too many who wish to use this death, right or wrong, to tear society apart. And society is giving these people free rein because of political correctness. Just have to hope the Butchers Bill stays under 100 bodies. That would be a pretty good result considering the violent promises BLM are making.
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