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Old 12-08-2019, 08:31 AM
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Remember Blair? - he had an unelected inner cabinet and he was PM. Cameron operated his own inner sanctum too. It's not like it's unusual.

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You totally miss the point I made. The claim that "Cummings is the new boogey man for the lazy, hypocritical Left" is nonsense as his biggest critics are not from the left at all.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:58 AM
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Well you can get a good indication from how a potential leader would run a cabinet from the way they run a party, or a leadership campaign.

Neither reflect well on either Johnson or Corbyn, but for totally different reasons. Corbyn relies more on his own inner circle than anyone I have seen in a very long time. As much as Blair. Whereas Johnson simply has zero interest in detail and will have to hugely rely on cabinet as he has no interest in managing anything, let alone micromanaging anything. So he has filled his cabinet with hard Brexit supporters to get unity on the key issue, but unfortunately they have to do everything else and the vast majority are idiots.
Indeed. A lot of what Boris has started doing, has been pretty good, but the make up of his cabinet is a worry, even if he has got rid of Grayling. Part of me wonders if once Brexit is done, whether there would be a reshuffle?
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:02 AM
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You totally miss the point I made. The claim that "Cummings is the new boogey man for the lazy, hypocritical Left" is nonsense as his biggest critics are not from the left at all.
i tend to ignore snipes about lefties, tends to reveal a biased point of view
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:30 AM
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i tend to ignore snipes about lefties, tends to reveal a biased point of view
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:48 AM
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Indeed. A lot of what Boris has started doing, has been pretty good,
You mean ******* up the economy, threatening to undermine our teetering democracy and pushing hard towards the destruction of the united kingdom? I guess you are easily pleased
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:57 AM
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However, Cummings is the new boogey man for the lazy, hypocritical Left
Are we allowed to dislike Cummings if we aren't members of the lazy hypocritical left?

Maybe you could regale us about some of the man's positive qualities, if you can spare the effort and have the inclination?
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:12 AM
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Maybe you could regale us about some of the man's positive qualities, if you can spare the effort and have the inclination?
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:44 AM
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Caroline Lucas' "women only cabinet" plan................have i just landed on another planet or something or isnt this downright sexism????
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:51 AM
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You mean ******* up the economy, threatening to undermine our teetering democracy and pushing hard towards the destruction of the united kingdom? I guess you are easily pleased
Sorry i should have specifically stated outside of Brexit.

Everyone has their entrenched views on that.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:02 AM
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Are we allowed to dislike Cummings if we aren't members of the lazy hypocritical left?

Maybe you could regale us about some of the man's positive qualities, if you can spare the effort and have the inclination?
Are we allowed to dislike Cummings if we've actually met him and had professional dealings with him (and been the subject of one of his vitriolic blogs)?
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:25 AM
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Are we allowed to dislike Cummings if we've actually met him and had professional dealings with him (and been the subject of one of his vitriolic blogs)?
If you post a link to the vitriolic blog post, sure
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:35 AM
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Caroline Lucas' "women only cabinet" plan................have i just landed on another planet or something or isnt this downright sexism????
I like Caroline Lucas but it is blatant sexism.

Sexism is a two way thing, and she simply highlights how badly men are also misrepresented by gender stereotyping.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:39 AM
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Caroline Lucas' "women only cabinet" plan................have i just landed on another planet or something or isnt this downright sexism????
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:44 AM
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I like Caroline Lucas but it is blatant sexism.

Sexism is a two way thing, and she simply highlights how badly men are also misrepresented by gender stereotyping.
same i was starting to like her, although that Lib Dem leader is a blatant feminist.

what annoys me more is the media, especially the BEEB. If this was the other way around they would be right on the sexism thing in a millisecond including challenging the leader on said subject live on air.
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I thought one of the things(lies) about Brexit was not having unelected representatives dictating to us.

So to prove the point we get unelected bovver boy Cummings who appears to be dictating and driving policy more than Johnson is.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:03 PM
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Caroline Lucas' "women only cabinet" plan................have i just landed on another planet or something or isnt this downright sexism????
Its part of the male, old & white = evil narrative that shitty guardian types are intent on pushing at the moment.

Its a great way at alienating a huge swathe of voters. Can't imagine most of the names on her list are too happy to be included with this.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:16 PM
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Its part of the male, old & white = evil narrative that shitty guardian types are intent on pushing at the moment.

Its a great way at alienating a huge swathe of voters. Can't imagine most of the names on her list are too happy to be included with this.
yep, i too hope it backfires spectacularly.
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same i was starting to like her, although that Lib Dem leader is a blatant feminist.

what annoys me more is the media, especially the BEEB. If this was the other way around they would be right on the sexism thing in a millisecond including challenging the leader on said subject live on air.
Emma Barnett gave her a going over this morning.
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Its part of the male, old & white = evil narrative that shitty guardian types are intent on pushing at the moment.

Its a great way at alienating a huge swathe of voters. Can't imagine most of the names on her list are too happy to be included with this.
It is interesting that in saying how untribal women are she displays a considerable amount of tribalism.This is a deeply unhelpful contribution.
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