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Old 18-08-2019, 03:30 PM
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They had tactics; we didn’t.

We had some pre historic 4-4-2 with players out of position.

And then when chasing the game we brought on defensive players instead of players like Ayew.

It won’t change though.
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Old 18-08-2019, 03:52 PM
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Arguably our worst performance since promotion and they just managed to win. They are fighting for survival that’s for sure.

Not an insult. They are probably on a par with us first season up and better organised initially. But they didn’t look full of quality and only just beat our statues. They do of course have new players to come in and gel so they have scope for improvement that might change that and points on the board already
Oh cmon, that is utter horseshit. Sunderland 0-4, FDB’s home games to Huddersfield and Swansea, Brighton away last season, multiple choices under Holloway etc etc
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Old 18-08-2019, 03:53 PM
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Yeah, the short answer is we didn't. There were a lot of signs they were lacking quality all over the pitch, but we completely failed to deal with their system at both ends. We actually started pretty well, and after 15 mins thought the game might turn into an interesting tactical battle with our quality showing through, but by the end it was embarrassing.
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Old 18-08-2019, 03:57 PM
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Not sure why we played a narrow 4-4-2 when we knew they would try to create situations where the full-back gets overloaded by three players. And when that clearly didn't work, switched to a narrow 4-4-2 with a more physical player (because we were basically just humping it long)
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Old 18-08-2019, 05:35 PM
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Any modicum of research would have revealed how Sheff Utd would play today. And we appeared to get caught cold.
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Old 18-08-2019, 05:39 PM
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Playing a four man midfield against a five man midfield is hardly the recipe for success. We are much better suited at playing 451 with Meyer inside of Zaha, and Camarasa inside of Andros.
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"Dont rate Zaha that much. He's decent but if he plays right hand side Enda owns him single handly, left hand side Baldock and Bash will keep him quiet. Down the middle he has no hope"

For anyone who, like me, is wondering who the **** Enda is - Enda Stevens, a 29 year old left back about to start his 8th Premier league game of his career. Neither Wilf or Townsend will be able to sleep at night.
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Old 19-08-2019, 11:07 AM
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Interesting thread on SU forum.

Apparently all clubs underestimate them and believe they’ve had an off day against a crap team.

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Old 19-08-2019, 01:45 PM
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You have to say they were pretty average when they started off and i felt we could come away with something, but when they realised just how poor we were and just not at the races they gained in confidence and came at us and we were LOST as to how to cope, and they then toyed with us.
But i do also admire their manager for his approach and his inventive play like when seeing his Centre Backs attacking down the Wings and in Midfield, i have to say it surprised me let alone our PLAYERS who were bemused and confused by it.
It will be interesting to see how they cope as the season progresses, but i see them surprising a few teams with their energy and and enthusiasm, the relegation places will be far from a formality this season surprisingly.
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Old 19-08-2019, 01:46 PM
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Out thought

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Not even going to bother reading that shit. We were crap but we'll finsh above them, let them have their moment in the sun. Twats.
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Not even going to bother reading that shit. We were crap but we'll finsh above them, let them have their moment in the sun. Twats.
I’m not sure that we will.
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Old 19-08-2019, 02:21 PM
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Not even going to bother reading that shit. We were crap but we'll finsh above them, let them have their moment in the sun. Twats.
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We struggle against any team with a high press. It’s why virtually everything ends up with a pass back to a centre back or clearance from the keeper.

Sheff Utd did their homework and we didn’t.

All those fans on here predicting a comfortable win must have rubbed off on the players.
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Wilder is a very strong tactician - and they play with ‘over lapping centre backs’ which overloads the defence, and overcomes traditional organised two banks of four.

May create space for us to counter - but will our makeshift defence and sometimes dodginess at full back get taken to the cleaners?
Isn’t this exactly what happened?
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Isn’t this exactly what happened?
I mean our defence didn’t exactly get taken to the cleaners. Sure they created more than us, but our problems were in attack and midfield far more than in defence.
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And Everton are a high pressing side, yet we did fine against them the week before. I’d say if anything that we’re typically good at passing in tight spaces (at least outside of the oppositions box), and therefore relatively well equipped for beating pressing sides. It’s the deep blocks we struggle against most.
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Wilder is a very strong tactician - and they play with ‘over lapping centre backs’ which overloads the defence, and overcomes traditional organised two banks of four.

May create space for us to counter - but will our makeshift defence and sometimes dodginess at full back get taken to the cleaners?
Pity Roy and coaches didn't see this coming
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And Everton are a high pressing side, yet we did fine against them the week before. I’d say if anything that we’re typically good at passing in tight spaces (at least outside of the oppositions box), and therefore relatively well equipped for beating pressing sides. It’s the deep blocks we struggle against most.
Yeah it wasn't the press that was the problem. In the first half we struggled when they loaded the wings, and in the second half we had no clue how to break them down when they sat back. First 15 minutes or so we looked a threat on the counter but Wilf's insistence on taking on the entire defence meant the most we got out of those breaks was a corner.
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