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Old 30-01-2019, 04:40 PM
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Can you name a recent Palace youth team player where this has worked? I don't believe Wan-Bissaka, Zaha, Clyne or Moses were ever loaned out and every other academy player has been released or sold for peanuts.
Doesn’t mean the loans don’t work, but maybe the qulaity of players we had weren’t good enough.

Remember that we have been in a better position in the last 6 years to attract better young players, this will take time for them to come off. When we were in the Championship is anyone was good enough they would go straight to the first team but now they might have to go on loan first due to the quality of the squad.
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Might make a man of him.

No saying it proves my point, just that people calling it ‘pointless’ should learn to be patient.
I do agree it could but I guess the point I'm making is it doesn't seem to often. Watching Jonny Williams on that Sunderland series makes you realise how difficult it can be for loan players outside of the football itself.
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Old 30-01-2019, 05:50 PM
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Might make a man of him.

No saying it proves my point, just that people calling it ‘pointless’ should learn to be patient.
There's a lack of patience by many on these boards. Mainly because their expectations of this club are set too high.

Our best case scenario with the actual fan base we have and the income that we have is top ten on a regular basis with an occasional cup thrown in.

Until the financial playing field is levelled out (never gonna happen) we are stuck with what have got, unless Billy Big Bollix comes in with more money than citeh and utd and spunx it on the best the world has got for our club.
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I do agree it could but I guess the point I'm making is it doesn't seem to often. Watching Jonny Williams on that Sunderland series makes you realise how difficult it can be for loan players outside of the football itself.
Havent seen it myself but I imagine for Williams it is generally really tough for him as his career is hanging by a thread whether injuries get the better of him. As players say, injuries cause depression. Other youth players probably havent been battered mentally as much as Williams I would imagine.
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The loans don't work, they just make things worse, i doubt we'll see his face again.
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A World Cup winner at youth level alongside Sancho, Hudson Odoi, Foden, Gibbs White, Smith Rowe who have all have more than the 0 minutes at their clubs than Kirby has got at Palace..

We shouldn't have sent him up to Blackpool he should be getting minutes for us in the Cup and on the bench regularly making sub appearances.

Potentially a great young player that we are wasting.
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A World Cup winner at youth level alongside Sancho, Hudson Odoi, Foden, Gibbs White, Smith Rowe who have all have more than the 0 minutes at their clubs than Kirby has got at Palace..

We shouldn't have sent him up to Blackpool he should be getting minutes for us in the Cup and on the bench regularly making sub appearances.

Potentially a great young player that we are wasting.
The opposing view is that if he hasn't got the skill or strength of character to force his way into Blackpools starting eleven then he doesn't deserve his Palace playing time
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Unused sub again yesterday.
Really don't see how that is good for his career.
I do believe he Did come on at some stage as i saw him on tv celebrate their goal. As i said before i would rather have seen him go to a local team like Sutton all be it at a lower level, but who are doing well also will be playing regular football which is what he needs rather than sitting on the bench at Blackpool.
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A World Cup winner at youth level alongside Sancho, Hudson Odoi, Foden, Gibbs White, Smith Rowe who have all have more than the 0 minutes at their clubs than Kirby has got at Palace..

We shouldn't have sent him up to Blackpool he should be getting minutes for us in the Cup and on the bench regularly making sub appearances.

Potentially a great young player that we are wasting.
What cup match? Against Spurs? Or just against Doncaster? Have you seen him play in u23? Cannot pretend to be an expert but has he really set the world alight there. Amazes me that we think he should play for Palace when he cannot get in a league one side.

One striking thing about AWB is that he wanted to go on loan in H2 17/18, but Hodgson refused because he thought he would be better in first team squad ( see Guardian article). Can there by any doubt that if Hodgson et al thought the same about Kirby they would have done the same thing?
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A World Cup winner at youth level alongside Sancho, Hudson Odoi, Foden, Gibbs White, Smith Rowe who have all have more than the 0 minutes at their clubs than Kirby has got at Palace..

We shouldn't have sent him up to Blackpool he should be getting minutes for us in the Cup and on the bench regularly making sub appearances.

Potentially a great young player that we are wasting.
Some of the names above are reAly going to be big stars with respect Kirby not near these yet but has time on his side long way from a palace premier league team maybe league cup next season
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A World Cup winner at youth level alongside Sancho, Hudson Odoi, Foden, Gibbs White, Smith Rowe who have all have more than the 0 minutes at their clubs than Kirby has got at Palace..

We shouldn't have sent him up to Blackpool he should be getting minutes for us in the Cup and on the bench regularly making sub appearances.

Potentially a great young player that we are wasting.
You've never seen Nya Kirby play have you?
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