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Old 06-11-2019, 07:14 PM
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Sure I read somewhere here that is was nice to see Jerry Murphy again ? I only saw clips of him playing , did they show him as he is today ?
I'd be surprised if Murph was there. I thought he'd disappeared off the face of the earth. I understand he went to Australia and came back to East London but would appear to keep a relatively low profile.
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Sure I read somewhere here that is was nice to see Jerry Murphy again ? I only saw clips of him playing , did they show him as he is today ?
Nope just saw the odd piece of action featuring Jerry. It was really just Vince Hillary, Jimmy Cannon Ian Walsh and a little bit of Kenny Sansom. The rest was old interviews and action shots .
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Without starting a new thread, I'll ask this question here...

I see on the Palace site there are extracts of Steve Kember's interview for the programme. In there he is talking about promotion in the 68-69 season, and makes the following comment:

"Another important game was when we played Middlesbrough on Easter Monday. We beat them 1-0 and everyone thought: 'we are going to do it."

Surely this game was 0-0? Either all that beer has gone to Steve's head, or I'm losing it also... a quick Google search seems to confirm it was 0-0.

As my all time hero, I can forgive him, but surely someone should have proof read this?
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Without starting a new thread, I'll ask this question here...

I see on the Palace site there are extracts of Steve Kember's interview for the programme. In there he is talking about promotion in the 68-69 season, and makes the following comment:

"Another important game was when we played Middlesbrough on Easter Monday. We beat them 1-0 and everyone thought: 'we are going to do it."

Surely this game was 0-0? Either all that beer has gone to Steve's head, or I'm losing it also... a quick Google search seems to confirm it was 0-0.

As my all time hero, I can forgive him, but surely someone should have proof read this?
Also I believe this game was on Good Friday (lunch time kick off, 40,000 Attendance) not Easter Monday?
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Also I believe this game was on Good Friday (lunch time kick off, 40,000 Attendance) not Easter Monday?
The game was on Good Friday, morning kick off (11.00, I think, perhaps 11.30). A very bright but chilly morning. 40,000 ish crowd. 0-0 scoreline. Crap game but it didn't matter as Middlesboro needed to win and a draw was OK for us.
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Nope just saw the odd piece of action featuring Jerry. It was really just Vince Hillary, Jimmy Cannon Ian Walsh and a little bit of Kenny Sansom. The rest was old interviews and action shots .
Swindlehurst and Hinshelwood was up to date interveiws I think
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Also I believe this game was on Good Friday (lunch time kick off, 40,000 Attendance) not Easter Monday?
That's right, followed the next day by the 3-1 over Portsmouth... and Liverpool are bitching about 2 games in 24 hours!
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My congratulations to the producers of an excellent documentary - so evocative, not just of my formative years following Palace and the memories of players, staff and matches that I have witnessed in over 45 years - but the way football has changed so much as an experience.

I loved the player interviews and the way Vince was interviewed up at the old Crystal Palace site was so stylish and hit my heart strings having grown up in Norwood - the spiritual home of Crystal Palace FC, the drive past the Queens Hotel and also going under the railway bridge at Selhurst station was a brilliant touch.

Some memories I had long forgotten came back. The plywood Palace dugout that featured prominently in the summary of the 79/80 season. This was because the concrete dug out from previous years had been destroyed in the celebrations after the Burnley match in May 79 after most of the crowd on the terracing swarmed on to the pitch - how there were no reports of serious injuries seems miraculous - I used to stand behind that very spot - imagine the leaders of the multi billion Premier League with a DIY temporary plywood dugout being shown on worldwide media - but that was how we rolled 40 years ago!

I loved the way Ian Evans put his slant on the whole story - for me he was the key character in the whole story.

Of course, he was replaced by Billy Gilbert after that horror tackle by George Best in the 77/78 season curtailed his Palace career.

For me, although he was not a former Palace trainee, unlike the entire Palace outfield team that won the Second Division title (he actually joined with Venables from QPR in 1974 that took another Palace hero, Don Rogers in exchange.

Evans was possibly at the height of his powers, captain not just of the Palace team that so wonderfully reached the 1976 FA Cup Semi Final, but also lead Palace to promotion from Division Three in 1977, also in dramatic fashion after three years of slogging in out in the third tier.

Evans was probably the father figure that Palace so desperately needed after the team started to falter in the second half of the 79/80 season - he knew the team inside out and was a far more experienced man at the time than the comparatively novice Jimmy Cannon - Evans was also captain of Wales and they had one of their strongest ever sides at the time.

Anyway, I digress, this was easily the best ever production I have ever seen on Palace and surely one of the best sports films I have ever seen too.

As a footnote, I’m recovering from major surgery and perhaps it’s the medication - but did any other older fans think Evans was the spitting image of Spike Milligan? I also thought Walshie looked hilarious too, especially his account of seeing Fiona Richmond ‘I’m from West Wales - I’ve never seen a naked woman before’ !
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Am I right in thinking there was no mention at all of Dario Gradi?
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Am I right in thinking there was no mention at all of Dario Gradi?
Dont recall him either, good move all round. Not exactly happy memories anyway.
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Am I right in thinking there was no mention at all of Dario Gradi?
To be fair, Dorking, the story was about the ‘Team of the 80’s’ and the men who made them - I don’t quite think Ho Ho Dario and his recruits such as Billy Hughes, David Galliers, Tommy Langley, Brian Bason and David Price fit the criteria, do you?
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To be fair, Dorking, the story was about the ‘Team of the 80’s’ and the men who made them - I don’t quite think Ho Ho Dario and his recruits such as Billy Hughes, David Galliers, Tommy Langley, Brian Bason and David Price fit the criteria, do you?
I'm not talking specifically about his godawful signings, more that as the documentary moved through the relegation season of 80/81, they mentioned Venables leaving, Ernie Walley, Malcolm briefly returning and being a shadow of his former self, and then relegation was suddenly glossed over in a whirlwind of opposition goals.

It's not a big deal, and the Centenary DVD does covers it properly to be fair, just thought (without watching it again) it was odd that Gradi didn't even get a namecheck
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I'm not talking specifically about his godawful signings, more that as the documentary moved through the relegation season of 80/81, they mentioned Venables leaving, Ernie Walley, Malcolm briefly returning and being a shadow of his former self, and then relegation was suddenly glossed over in a whirlwind of opposition goals.

It's not a big deal, and the Centenary DVD does covers it properly to be fair, just thought (without watching it again) it was odd that Gradi didn't even get a namecheck
If you recall, Noades original plan when he installed Gradi as manager in January 1981 was to transplant the Wimbledon FC squad (then in the fourth tier!) - straight into Palace’s First Division squad - but the Football League held an Extraordinary General Meeting and blocked the merger.

Therefore only Gradi came, with three other Wimbledon directors, Jimmy Rose, Brian Faulkner and Bernie Coleman, but the top Wimbledon players such as a young Dave Beasant, Alan Cork ( who went on on to be FA Cup Winners don’t forget - along with the embryonic Wally Downes, Glyn Hodges and Steve Ketteridge, all stayed at Plough Lane for another decade or so,

Hence, by the time Gradi did become Palace boss, we got the woeful Langley Price and Bason instead, Jim Cannon told me recently that Gradi had given up on keeping Palace up straight away in January, even though the existing Palace players were still up for it and survival was still possible with a full four months still left in the season.

People seem to forget how divisive and radical the Noades takeover was for Palace players and supporters alike!
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It's difficult to explain just what a big deal Malcolm Allison joining us was for Palace fans. He had a massive reputation after winning the 1st Division at Man City with exciting, attacking football. It says something about his charisma that the vast majority of Palace fans still had faith in him despite two consecutive relegations. Malcolm Allison must be given massive credit for a policy that built the youth team that won the FA Youth Cup in two consecutive seasons. The youth team that then became the bedrock of the "team of the eighties".
It was brilliant watching that team under Terry Venables blaze a trail of two promotions playing good (and sometimes excellent) football. And heartbreaking as a fan to see its complete implosion in just a couple of seasons.
What makes me equally sad is to be reminded what a flamboyant and charismatic coach Malcolm Allison was, not realising at the time that the seeds of his decline were probably already being sown. It's only with hindsight it can be seen that that he also had character flaws that meant his huge potential as a coach was never fulfilled. In this context I can recommend "Big Mal. The high life and hard and hard times of Malcolm Allison, football legend" by David Tossell as a great read.
Malcolm Allison's tenure as manager still remains one of the most exciting and optimistic periods of my 66 years (and counting) as a Palace fan.
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Watched this this week and enjoyed it... My first game was 40 years ago as a six year old so much of that time i was too young to realise much of what was going on. The documentary was fun, my only criticism is it felt very rushed towards the end and how it all fell apart.
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