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Old 30-12-2019, 02:57 PM
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VAR was designed for clear decisions.

When is the ball played by the player to indicate the moment of offside? Is it when he connects with the ball, or the moment the ball is no longer in contact? That is not stipulated in the law, but when you are searching for the very frame that indicates it that might be significant when taking offside to the mm. 1 frame the player might connect with the ball, but a few frames later before it leaves the foot, the teammate could be offside in 1 frame but onside in the other.

IMO they should have the lines but unless there is a gap between the 2 lines then the player is onside. Overlapping lines should never be offside.

For handball, if the ball has not been diverted, if it has only brushed the arm/hand and it has had no impact (and no movement towards the ball), the goal should stand IMO.


The harder bit is how to sort out what decisions do and do not get overturned. They need a standard was of determining that, not having 10 different people each week making different decisions with no accountability or consistency.
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This "clear and obvious error" seems to have been OK in the various international competitions where it's been used so it's amazing how much of a baws the PL has managed to make if it.
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And another one! Hand offside. What a load of shiiiiite
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No. You a comedian ? I just want fair refereeing.
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Since when did you think that hands count in offsides?
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Saw a clip on Twatter of an Australian use and all the refs are mic'ed up. Main and VAR refs. Looked interesting
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Lukas Brud, general secretary of the International Football Association Board, said: "With VAR we see some things that are going in a direction that we may need to re-adjust."

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Mark Halsey, who officiated in the Premier League from 1999 to 2013, said referees' body PGMOL was "not using it correctly" compared with other countries that have VAR.

"Everywhere else is going to the pitchside monitor and that is not happening [here]," he said.

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Looks like the 'weeds have had more VAR decisions go their way than any other side.
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Can you imagine though, no decisions will ever be overturned

Wankers like Oliver, Atwell, Pawson, Friend and Marriner are never going to admit they made an error, no matter how obvious

It needs another pair of eyes
Not using the side of the pitch monitor has been the best bit. We need to keep the refs from sub conscious big club bias.
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"If you spend multiple minutes trying to identify whether it is offside or not, then it's not clear and obvious and the original decision should stand," he said.
He added: "What we really need to stress is that 'clear and obvious' applies to every single situation that is being reviewed by the VAR or the referee.
"In theory, 1mm offside is offside, but if a decision is taken that a player is not offside and the VAR is trying to identify through looking at five, six, seven, 10, 12 cameras whether or not it was offside, then the original decision should stand.
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Looks like the 'weeds have had more VAR decisions go their way than any other side.
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Got to say I've been annoyed by how a lot of the media has spun VAR to say that the fans somehow like it or want it. You get comments like 'it has added a new dimension to the game'. Yes, it has. A terrible, unwanted one.

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Apparently we’re now up to 21 goals that would’ve been scored that have been disallowed by VAR. Fifa are looking at radical offside law changes according to a radio report this morning.
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The Technology is not really up to determining offside if it is centimetres in it.

VAR was brought in to turn around gross injustices like the Chelsea goal that was yards offside at Cardiff which probably helped relegate Cardiff last year.

It was always the advantage goes to the attacking player if it is tight.

If it looks level with the naked eye then it should be fine and not analysed for 2/3 minutes so it can be ruled out!
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Seems it’s not being discussed yet, probably best to wait until a team is relegated or wins something from it the ��

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They said on BBC Breakfast this morning that the bindippers lead would only be 7 points without VAR.
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They said on BBC Breakfast this morning that the bindippers lead would only be 7 points without VAR.
Be quite marvellous if their Long Wait To Be Crowned Again (TM) went down as a tainted season that no-one's going to really count in the future. "Yeah, 2019/2020, that was the VAR one"
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