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I just don't buy the players aren't good enough BS. Kane was top scorer in the most competitive league in the world last year. Sterling scored 23 goals and had 17 assists. Alli scored 14 and had 17 assists. Even Lingard scored 13 and had 7 assists in a season where he came a lot off the bench. And yet its not a disaster of epic proportions that we only managed to score 3 goals in 7 games from open play? To say the players aren't good enough is ridiculous. |
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If only Robbie Savage was 10 years younger and English...
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Southgate actually did a good job of minimising these weaknesses while capitalising on ways England could hurt teams (dead ball situations, Tripper's delivery). This was really only effective against poor or average competition, but considering it helped carry the team to a semi-final, you can't be too mad. |
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Some great analysis and thought provoking opinions on this thread. Many thanks
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Is Southgate a great manager? I don’t think so but he’s done a good job with this England side, and based simply on finishing 4th in the World Cup, he has overachieved. |
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How can anybody be critical of England at this WC? they have achieved way beyond expectations thanks initally to a "kind" group and games that followed, unfortunately but not unexpected when it came to the crunch and having to face the "better" teams, we got found out.
Moving forward i would say we are very close to having a solid well balanced team but possibly lacking in Three areas. If Gareth continues to play a Back Three then we need a more consistent Right sided defender as Walker tends to be a "complacent" player who tends to dwell on the ball and concedes posession too easily. The Midfield looks fine on paper with good young players, but at this level and to win tournaments it needs a Playmaker controlling and dictating play, such a pity that Both Wilshire and Barkley lost their way as they would have been the icing on the cake. Finally if we can add a "jack in the box" striker to complement Kane but also aid with the goalscoring would be a real bonus and complete the team. As for the Manager we have unearthed a gem in Gareth Southgate, not necessarilly for his footballing/tactical brain but he will get better with experience at this level, it's more his man management and ability crucially into getting the best out of his players by treating them with respect, rather than by bullying tactics shows it works better. His bosses need to now show patience and give him his head to experiment and develop the exciting Young England teams that are coming through, and in 2/3 years we will start to reap the rewards. |
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If future WC's have similarly unbalanced draws, it might make for entertainment as some good teams crash out, but the shrewd coaches will start gaming the system (as Southgate did, deliberately or by accident). I am surprised that the "victims" of this haven't kicked up with FIFA.
I see Jose Mourinho has become (the surprising) 'boy in the crowd' pointing out that Sterling has no clothes. So far, no comment from Guardiola. Southgate's decision to keep playing a totally ineffective Vardy (with a minimum workrate), is inexplicable given Southgate's age fetish - has anyone got an explanation ? Have the young, half-baked players really benefitted from this "tournament exposure" ? Pickford and Trippier have shown well, and Maguire/Stones have shown some potential, but the rest (including Kane), have mostly shown inadequacies, doubtful "tournament temperament" and declining confidence. Not convinced that filling the team with this years' "flavour of the month" young players is any more than a gimmick. Very few Palace fans would have picked Ruben for the squad, because he is simply not ready yet. Of course, for Southgate, they are much easier to handle. |
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I don't think Southgate 'gamed' the system because I doubt we would have beaten Belgium regardless. If we had, I reckon we'd have beaten Japan then lost to Brazil in the quarter finals, at which point we'd all have been disappointed but also probably thought that we had done OKAY to get that far.
Also - our half of the draw only looks unbalanced in hindsight because Germany failed to get out of their group and Spain lost to Russia Last edited by firesign; 15-07-2018 at 01:41 PM. |
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Best thing about this world cup is that the losses to Croatia and Belgium give a sense of realism as to where the team is. We just aren't a top 5 team yet and I think the Southgate has won all the games which we should of won, which is fairly unusual unfortunately for an England team.
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Surely you expected the media to go over the top as it brings publicity which in turn raises jo publics excitment, its all part of the circus. But i feel you are being overly critical of the team, we know there are areas of weakness as i pointed out, and there were players where it all "caught up" as in the case of our one match winner Harry Kane, if he had kept firing it would have been a different story. Yes there were players that lack quality at this level and that was shown up when we played the quality of Belgium yesterday, but there is a good base to work from and if we can find a Glenn Hoddle type midfielder, then we will see a big difference. Talk of Sessegnon and Foden are very premature, we need to see them perform in the premiership first and develop before being promoted, the pity was the demise of Wilshire and Barkley as they were the successors to step up. But i have high hopes of seeing a good young England team taking shape which has not happened for a very long time, that is not to suggest we can win the next big tournament but getting into the final would be good. |
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When McGuire is running past our midfield you got to think it's poor Pickford,trippier and McGuire,the rest might aswell not bothered That's 8 players need to be found If England were playing France today mbape would go past young like he wasn't there |
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Harsh our back 3weren't bad but you can blame them for the goals
I hope France win today as they have the best team with a fuc@in awful league |
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What did he actually do in our last two games nothing,it's a game of opinions and I personally think he is at one time Glenn Murray was the second highest goal scorer in world football
And he wasn't bad |
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Best team won the world cup. But again a sense of perspective. This French side is younger than ours. Also just look at the stars that didn't even get into their squad. We are still someway behind.
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