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Old 21-06-2018, 02:58 PM
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Hand in an unnatural position I guess.
Try jumping with your hands by your side. Still at least players know they can wrestle opponents to the ground without being pulled up. Goal line technology has been great. VAR so far looks pointless.
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Not sure about that, looked like he was just jumping in the box with hands out for balance. I guess the takeout is hands down jumping in the box is the only natural position.
Me either. Just trying to work out what reason law they gave it for mate.
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Every team will be looking at how to play VAR to their advantage and the obvious one now is to play ball to hand in the box, with the chance the VAR officials will judge it deliberate.

Slippery slope with this penalty decision.
VAR officials dont judge it at all, they just tell the ref they think he needs to have another look. He still makes the decision
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Try jumping with your hands by your side. Still at least players know they can wrestle opponents to the ground without being pulled up. Goal line technology has been great. VAR so far looks pointless.
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VAR officials dont judge it at all, they just tell the ref they think he needs to have another look. He still makes the decision
Has any ref with VAR had a look yet at a possible penalty decision and then kept the original decision not to give one?
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Can't believe people are persisting with the BBC, when better coverage alternatives are out there.

Each to their own I guess.
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Me either. Just trying to work out what reason law they gave it for mate.
Danish tv here have a ref on the panel and he's saying Spanish refs on the FIFA courses came across as loving giving penalties like that.
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Has any ref with VAR had a look yet at a possible penalty decision and then kept the original decision not to give one?
Not in this WC i don't think, so it looks like it is working well from that point of view.
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Old 21-06-2018, 03:03 PM
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Can't believe people are persisting with the BBC, when better coverage alternatives are out there.

Each to their own I guess.
It’s on ITV
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Can't believe people are persisting with the BBC, when better coverage alternatives are out there.

Each to their own I guess.
Eh EE ?
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I thought handball had to be deliberate? How can you look at that in slow motion and still determine it's deliberate? VAR was a farce last year. There's been no improvement.

VAR is making a farce of matches. Wrestling players to the ground in the penalty box is fine but ball to hand is a penalty?
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Me either. Just trying to work out what reason law they gave it for mate.
The only law is deliberate handball.

When a goalkeeper defends a shot he might choose to do a Schmeichel startfish. If the ball hits his hand/arm doing that is it a deliberate action? of course it is.

I have not seen the incident so won't comment on this particular case but if he has put his arm in a position and the ball has struck it then it might be considered deliberate.
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VAR is making a farce of matches. Wrestling players to the ground in the penalty box is fine but ball to hand is a penalty?
Interesting article on BBC with David Ellery who is the IFAB referee voice i think. He goes through the major decisions this world cup and that one he says (the first) he cannot understand why it was not referred.

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Old 21-06-2018, 03:11 PM
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Can't believe people are persisting with the BBC, when better coverage alternatives are out there.

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I'm against VAR in its current guise but think it has been okay so far. Can't be doing with the referee watching a monitor on the pitchside - puts him under unnecessary pressure and exposure whilst it removes the objectivity of the decision as he must be thinking "there is a reason why I've been told to look at this again".

Handball rule will need serious surgery if VAR is to be fully implemented as it is so grey and open to interpretation. I think it was a pen today, but with the rules as they are it is not a clear and obvious error.
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Is it? I'm watching all the games on TSN1. Far better. The only downside is at half time they do that poxy thing of talking to the camera with their answers. Other than that it's fine. Too many on the BBC/ITV irritate.
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