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So no evidence at all for suggesting that I am a closet brexiteer. Yet you seem wedded to that belief.

Isn't that the sort of behaviour that you mock brexiteers for ?
as no one saw your ballot except you, all we can go on is your posts. Therefore I would put this up as evidence

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Now, if there is some other posts, I dunno perhaps under a different username, that you think people should also consider that would lead to a different conclusion, then by all means point them out.
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Itís almost as if the individual countries had sovereignty, but that can't be right can it?
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Can someone explain why enhancing cooperation between EU armed forces is a bad thing. Sounds more efficient to pool resources, tap into expertise and expedite troop movement
One could also add that as EU countries - and the UK not forgetting the US and Canada - are all members of NATO and co-operate to a level of which Pepper Percy must be in total ignorance.

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Can someone explain why enhancing cooperation between EU armed forces is a bad thing. Sounds more efficient to pool resources, tap into expertise and expedite troop movement
You'd have thought so.

My guess is that opposition is based on little more than mawkish sentimentality about "our brave lads".
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New German Foreign Secretary actively pushing a policy for the creation of the United States of Europe.
With many European leaders now pushing for an EU army we managed to escape in time to avoid the horror of "Big Brother" EU style which is very much on the horizon after this weeks examples :

Austria forcing people to have a Covid vaccine
Holland fireing live rounds at protestors
Germany seriously considering forcing vaccines on the non vaccinated.
In Italy you lose your job if you are not vaccinated & it just goes on.
Let’s put aside the various things that have nothing to do with the EU and look at the ones that do.

EU army - they’re not trying this but in any event if they ever had done, we had the power of veto
United States if Europe - again, we had the power of veto.

So we got out of the EU, and ****ed ourselves over in the process to avoid something we could have stopped anyway.
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So you have a convenient escape route from Brexit, if necessary?
A point of annoyance for me is that as someone who would be categorised as not truly British/English by some or be kicked out the country if they had their way, I literally don't have anywhere else to go. No dual nationality, I have/had British parents, British grandparents, while some who are hardcore Brexiteers have literally taken a shit on the country and prepared contingency plans with Irish passports, European passport applications via marriage etc.
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A point of annoyance for me is that as someone who would be categorised as not truly British/English by some or be kicked out the country if they had their way, I literally don't have anywhere else to go. No dual nationality, I have/had British parents, British grandparents, while some who are hardcore Brexiteers have literally taken a shit on the country and prepared contingency plans with Irish passports, European passport applications via marriage etc.
Ah but your user name on here is Swahili. Thatís enough for the Home Secretary to declare you have East African heritage or some such nonsense and to try to have you shipped off to Kenya or Tanzania.
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Ah but your user name on here is Swahili. Thatís enough for the Home Secretary to declare you have East African heritage or some such nonsense and to try to have you shipped off to Kenya or Tanzania.
I wanted to make a comment about another East African country and a one way trip, but I probably shouldn't
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Can someone explain why enhancing cooperation between EU armed forces is a bad thing. Sounds more efficient to pool resources, tap into expertise and expedite troop movement
Itís not a bad thing at all. The U.K. and French have cooperated for decades. We had troops stationed in Germany for decades. Weíve also jointly developed stuff with other European players for decades. Jaguar, Tornado, Typhoon are all jointly developed platforms. The U.K. Type 45s and the French and Italian equivalents all have the same missile system on them.

The idea that if Europe was invaded by someone weíd all be running around on our own rather than coordinating a defence is ******* nonsense.
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Ah but your user name on here is Swahili. Thatís enough for the Home Secretary to declare you have East African heritage or some such nonsense and to try to have you shipped off to Kenya or Tanzania.
This is also why as much as I don't give a crap what happens to Shamima Begum, from a self preservation perspective, the thought of legislation being utilised in such a way worries me.
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This is also why as much as I don't give a crap what happens to Shamima Begum, from a self preservation perspective, the thought of legislation being utilised in such a way worries me.
It was a tiny loophole in citizenship rules of Bangladesh. You are not Bengali extract if I remember correctly, also you are over 18 or 21 (whatever the age limit was for that loophole) so you should be fine.

But the fact our government decided to use that loophole is worrying.
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Ah but your user name on here is Swahili. Thatís enough for the Home Secretary to declare you have East African heritage or some such nonsense and to try to have you shipped off to Kenya or Tanzania.
And you, off to Germany. There are some very nice bits of Germany.
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Letís put aside the various things that have nothing to do with the EU and look at the ones that do.

EU army - theyíre not trying this but in any event if they ever had done, we had the power of veto
United States if Europe - again, we had the power of veto.

So we got out of the EU, and ****ed ourselves over in the process to avoid something we could have stopped anyway.
Besides the veto we also had in place an understanding that the uk would not partake in any greater integration. Even if they had done either - there would have been no need to veto and prevent it - it wouldnít have involved the uk (unless the uk wanted it).
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