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Worldo just updated Spain to 553, but they do not have the state by state breakdown that you can see if you click, for example, on "USA"
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For those of us following the trend, this makes analysis somewhat imprecise
The wording of the DHSC tweet is the same as previously:

"As of 5pm on 30 March, of those hospitalised in the UK, 1,789 have sadly died."

So we can assume the inclusion of those who died outside hospital only applies at the moment to the weekly ONS stats, and that today's increase does not have anything to do with adding those who died outside hospital.
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Going back to that old "us and Italy" extending from the comparable count of reaching a 233 deaths total - by the same day now, Italy was on 2503, we are on 1808 (using Worldometer which has us at 400 today (presumably adding in the extra ones ONS mentioned today from a few weeks back)
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The wording of the DHSC tweet is the same as previously:

"As of 5pm on 30 March, of those hospitalised in the UK, 1,789 have sadly died."

So we can assume the inclusion of those who died outside hospital only applies at the moment to the weekly ONS stats, and that today's increase does not have anything to do with adding those who died outside hospital.
The total is actually 1801 so presumably that means 12 died outside hospital?
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Going back to that old "us and Italy" extending from the comparable count of reaching a 233 deaths total - by the same day now, Italy was on 2503, we are on 1808 (using Worldometer which has us at 400 today (presumably adding in the extra ones ONS mentioned today from a few weeks back)
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367! Just shows the lag in cases to death, that 10-12 day delay
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Going back to that old "us and Italy" extending from the comparable count of reaching a 233 deaths total - by the same day now, Italy was on 2503, we are on 1808 (using Worldometer which has us at 400 today (presumably adding in the extra ones ONS mentioned today from a few weeks back)
If that is only 1 day out we are in the same place.
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Worldo just updated Spain to 553, but they do not have the state by state breakdown that you can see if you click, for example, on "USA"
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The total is actually 1801 so presumably that means 12 died outside hospital?
That would only be the case if the regional bodies were including those who died outside of hospital and the DHSA then took them out. It's possible, but there could also be another reason for the discrepancy - I hadn't heard anything confirming PHE was including non hospitalised cases.
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Going back to that old "us and Italy" extending from the comparable count of reaching a 233 deaths total - by the same day now, Italy was on 2503, we are on 1808 (using Worldometer which has us at 400 today (presumably adding in the extra ones ONS mentioned today from a few weeks back)
Yes and that's why the graph the medic put out was rightly question as the starting point was inaccurate and adjusted to suit their own argument.

Of course there are variables along the way but the sudden spike shouldn't come as a surprise sadly as the trend would've put us at approximately 300 last Sunday or yesterday. 2 days of stable figures but as suggested yesterday we should be cautious as we need a stabilisation of a least 3/4 days. The trend has us to be around 600 per day later this week. Anything under that is about as good as it can get. Seeing the Spanish and Italian numbers are peaking an now stabilising around the 800ish mark hopefully our peak dosent extend much beyond the 600 mark. We can then expect by the trends that unfotrtunaly that number will be seen for several days as the partial lock down takes hold.
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On the mask front, it would seem wearing a mask has limited amount of protective benefits.

Wearing a mask behind a face screen and a full protective suit would seem to offer much more protective benefits. Therefore it forms part of PPE for those that require it.

However the point about the general public wearing masks is surely not that it offers a lot of protection but that it stops those with the virus passing it on to some extent.

Therefore if everyone wears a mask in public it will play a role in stopping the spread.
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Why is that the most important thing? Our public Health officials don't think it works in stopping the spread, don't think it has benefit full stop. That is a more import thing that the part you have decided is most important to you.

That is not pig headed that is following PHE advice. It is also the case that you might be infectious and have no symptoms at all so it makes your point about whether you are infectious before or after symptom present rather moot and irrelevant.

The simple fact is our best epidemiologist and public health experts do not think wearing a mask helps in the general population and supplies of a dwindling resource are better reserved for healthcare staff who have to work within a 1m radius of potentially infected patients.
This is the line most healthcare officials are citing, but of course it ignores the great contradiction. Masks are ineffective for normal people, they only work on healthcare workers. Of course this is obviously false.

The reality is that transmission is primarily by droplet or touch and you can mitigate both of these transmission paths by keeping your distance - in which case the mask isn't doing much. The risk comes when you have to spend time along infectious people (symptomatic or asymptomatic) and you can't distance.

This is obviously true for healthcare workers, but what about people in working in supermarkets, amazon workers or postal workers operating in a busy warehouse, in NYC there are still thousands cramming onto a reduced subway system because it's the only way they can get to their essential place of work? To say they don't have 'benefit full stop' would be false and is misleading advice.

As you say, what is paramount is that healthcare and essential workers who can't distance need them the most and their needs should be put vastly above those who can move around with plenty of distance. But masks have their uses outside of the healthcare workers, what we don't want is people wasting or hoarding them when they aren't necessary.
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This is the line most healthcare officials are citing, but of course it ignores the great contradiction. Masks are ineffective for normal people, they only work on healthcare workers. Of course this is obviously false.

The reality is that transmission is primarily by droplet or touch and you can mitigate both of these transmission paths by keeping your distance - in which case the mask isn't doing much. The risk comes when you have to spend time along infectious people (symptomatic or asymptomatic) and you can't distance.

This is obviously true for healthcare workers, but what about people in working in supermarkets, amazon workers or postal workers operating in a busy warehouse, in NYC there are still thousands cramming onto a reduced subway system because it's the only way they can get to their essential place of work? To say they don't have 'benefit full stop' would be false and is misleading advice.

As you say, what is paramount is that healthcare and essential workers who can't distance need them the most and their needs should be put vastly above those who can move around with plenty of distance. But masks have their uses outside of the healthcare workers, what we don't want is people wasting or hoarding them when they aren't necessary.

Sorry but Corona does not transmit purely through the skin via touch. It only transmits (as far as is currently known) via breathing droplets in the air, or via ingestion in the nose/eyes/mouth from either someone's own hands for someone else - hence the washing hands mantra as you can carry the virus for a while on your own hands after touching a surface with it on, and then touching an "orifice" so to speak..

If that is what you meant via touch fair enough, but it read like simple person to person touch like handshakes etc.
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Sorry but Corona does not transmit purely through the skin via touch. It only transmits (as far as is currently known) via breathing droplets in the air, or via ingestion in the nose/eyes/mouth from either someone's own hands for someone else - hence the washing hands mantra as you can carry the virus for a while on your own hands after touching a surface with it on, and then touching an "orifice" so to speak..

If that is what you meant via touch fair enough, but it read like simple person to person touch like handshakes etc.
Yeah, a simplification. I meant it's possible to get the virus on your hands via a handshake or opening a door and then transmit it to the respiratory tract by touching your eyes, nose or mouth.
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Frontline doctors have told The Independent they have been gagged from speaking out about shortages of protective equipment as they treat coronavirus patients – with some claiming managers have threatened their careers.

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