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Old 09-02-2020, 08:11 AM
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It would depend on whether they would need to sign up to the Stability Pact upon joining. If yes, then the cuts to get down to an annual budget deficit of 3% of GDP would be quite vicious.
Why would they not have to sign up to the stability pact?

What’s the Scottish deficit at the moment? 7%?
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:33 AM
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They announced an increase to 7.2% in their budget this week. I think they'd have to as well otherwise it would be unfair on others.
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Technically it may not be, from memory only i think theres a caveat in that law about people in positions of trust and minors. He might still be in trouble. Have a google i cant be bothered.
If he was a teacher he would lose his job.

The same should apply here re him remaining an MSP.

Due process is now underway re expelling him from the SNP. Hard to imagine that there will be a reason for him to remain a party member.
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:55 AM
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Has Alex Salmond been expelled?

If I recall Sturgeon said she couldn’t suspend him, and eventually he resigned.
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Has Alex Salmond been expelled?

If I recall Sturgeon said she couldn’t suspend him, and eventually he resigned.
I think iirc correctly she was making the point it was not a decision she personally could make.

Like you say he then resigned.

I suspect had he not he would have remained in the party as any internal investigation would have been seen as prejudicial tp the court case. The same principle has been applied following Sturgeon referring herself to the ethics committee re her meetings with Salmond.
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Why would they not have to sign up to the stability pact?

What’s the Scottish deficit at the moment? 7%?
The continued protests in france have led to their deficit rising from 2.8%to 3.2%
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It’s going to be interesting if they do get independence to see whether they will be able to raise the same level of income as they currently achieve as I can’t see them getting complete control over the oil fields as part of any separation agreement and these are reducing. I could imagine a fair few businesses moving south of the border to avoid the instability and if the income reduces, the deficit could go significantly higher without a massive austerity programme.
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I could imagine a fair few businesses moving south of the border to avoid the instability and if the income reduces, the deficit could go significantly higher without a massive austerity programme.
I could imagine more than a fair few businesses moving north if they join the EU.
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I could imagine more than a fair few businesses moving north if they join the EU.
How would they get over the hard borders.
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How many jobs are UK government jobs that would come home.
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The Navy shipbuilding jobs go ... type 26 won't be done up there if they leave...
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The Navy shipbuilding jobs go ... type 26 won't be done up there if they leave...
There's nowhere to build them in England. Then of course there are the costs involved when they tell us to gets the nukes out of the Clyde.
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All I want to know is what will be the tariff on importing Buckfast?
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There's nowhere to build them in England. Then of course there are the costs when they tell us to gets the nukes out of the Clyde.
We have docks in England big enough plus it's a rolling contract that will include a type 45 replacement.. juicy enough to attract investment.
The Nukes ... meh
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We have docks in England big enough plus it's a rolling contract that will include a type 45 replacement.. juicy enough to attract investment.
The Nukes ... meh
'Big Docks" aren't the issue. BAE aren't going to reinvest south of the border (which bearing in mind their inability to deliver anything one time or on budget might not be a bad thing). I wouldn't trust Cammel Laird to build a bath tub. The rest of the warship building capacity in England could just about manage hull sections. Better to buy frigates from The Danes, Spanish or Italians.

as for the Nukes, you can 'meh' all you like. We would still have to pay to shift them.
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'Big Docks" aren't the issue. BAE aren't going to reinvest south of the border (which bearing in mind their inability to deliver anything one time or on budget might not be a bad thing). I wouldn't trust Cammel Laird to build a bath tub. The rest of the warship building capacity in England could just about manage hull sections. Better to buy frigates from The Danes, Spanish or Italians.
Don't be silly type 26 is 15/20 years of rolling work when added a type 45 replacement (on a 26 hull) on the back-end of it .. BAE would invest.
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All I want to know is what will be the tariff on importing Buckfast?
You won't be able to afford it ... Homemade Turnip Whisky will be it!
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You won't be able to afford it ... Homemade Turnip Whisky will be it!
We will still be able to afford luxury items, such as Buckfast, at Christmas.
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