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Old 13-10-2019, 10:02 AM
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Sorry I should have read all the other replies before posting. On a different point 3 of his 5 goals were in the last two games of the season when we were safe and playing for fun. For the money and wages we should be looking for a 10 plus goal a season player which I donít think he is.
I think playing regularly he could easily be a 10-15 goals player.
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Old 13-10-2019, 10:18 AM
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Batman is a goalscorer, could score 20 a season, my issue is aside from that it's like playing with 10 men.

Great to have if we are dominating at home, awful if we need an outlet when under the cosh away.
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Old 13-10-2019, 10:51 AM
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With Benteke in the team, it's like playing with 9 men.
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Old 13-10-2019, 01:21 PM
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With Benteke in the team, it's like playing with 9 men.
Batshuayi was more anonymous than Benteke in a lot of his games, Hodgson played Benteke ahead of him a few times I'm sure.

Dread to think how people on here would react if Batshuayi didn't score for a few games.
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Old 13-10-2019, 01:21 PM
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I've stopped being bitter about the sell-on clause for Wilf. To be honest, we've had fantastic value from the deal, and it's probably fair all round.
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22m for bats is a really good deal as long as he doesnt want stupid wages or sign on fee.
I should imagine he is on big money as a £30m plus player for a top four team and i doubt he would take a cut in wages. He looked very good and very average £22 for an inconsistent player is not a risk i would take and as a team that requires hard working players from front to back he is not a player i would buy.
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Old 13-10-2019, 02:13 PM
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I've stopped being bitter about the sell-on clause for Wilf. To be honest, we've had fantastic value from the deal, and it's probably fair all round.
Yep. Certainly one of the best signings we've ever made regardless of the sell on.
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Benteke now replacing Batshuayi with 12 mins left. Have to say that Batshuayi doesn’t look match fit/sharp, hardly surprising
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Old 13-10-2019, 03:08 PM
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Just scored the first goal in Belgium- Kazakhstan, although not done a lot else
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Batshuayi was more anonymous than Benteke in a lot of his games, Hodgson played Benteke ahead of him a few times I'm sure.

Dread to think how people on here would react if Batshuayi didn't score for a few games.
Batshuayi scores goals, Benteke doesn't.

One of the biggest issues with Benteke is that he offers very little else anyway. When Heskey played for England he had a poor scoring record, but he worked hard, held up the ball, won it in the air, brought Owen into play, etc. Benteke has the build for this sort of game, but he seemingly can't be bothered with the physical side. Fairly pathetic to be honest.
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Just scored the first goal in Belgium- Kazakhstan, although not done a lot else

Thatís what he does. Not surprised but he fitted our style of play as we donít pump balls into the area but Bats is lethal inside the box.

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Personally I would still rather have Morelos, he gets about more and I think he would do well in our team, his work ethic would likely appeal to Roy. Without Wilf how attractive would we be to Michy
In the strongest team in a crap league. Bats is a known quantity. IE we know he scores goals in the premier league. Even if he turns out to be a flat track bully and can only do it against bottom half teams that would make an enormous difference to us. Look at Everton's problems since they lost Lukaku.

a 433 with Wilf, Ayew and Bats would be fine. A narrow 442 with Ayew and Bats would probably also be fine. Ayew the runner and worker that chip in a few goals and then Bats the finisher.

We don't play to a big man. As long as we have at least one midfielder that is good at defensive and attacking headers that would work.
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Glad you are not in charge of transfers. Morelos plays in an utterly shite league, and now starts most league matches on the bench due to Defoe outscoring him. He's also a red card waiting to happen. No thanks
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He is the One Forward we should make every effort into bringing to the club in January , but probably a big ask as Chelseas will make every effort to hold on until the summer as they push for a Top Four position. However as far as we are concerned Batshuayi has proven he can settle at the club and produce the goods and that is always a gamble into getting the right man in, as we have experienced.
The concern i have is losing Zaha which looks inevitable will be a massive loss to what we would be gaining, as it needs the "magic" and promptings of WZ to see/get the best out of Batshuayi, but regardless we need him for the rebuilding that lays ahead.
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Glad you are not in charge of transfers. Morelos plays in an utterly shite league, and now starts most league matches on the bench due to Defoe outscoring him. He's also a red card waiting to happen. No thanks
He's scored 14 goals in 18 games this season and is only 23.

Most of his red cards last season where a bit ridiculous and he previously had a decent disciplinary record I'm sure.

113 goals in 192 career games at such a young age is impressive regardless of the league.
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He is the One Forward we should make every effort into bringing to the club in January , but probably a big ask as Chelseas will make every effort to hold on until the summer as they push for a Top Four position. However as far as we are concerned Batshuayi has proven he can settle at the club and produce the goods and that is always a gamble into getting the right man in, as we have experienced.
The concern i have is losing Zaha which looks inevitable will be a massive loss to what we would be gaining, as it needs the "magic" and promptings of WZ to see/get the best out of Batshuayi, but regardless we need him for the rebuilding that lays ahead.
Is the correct answer and if we could sign him for £22m that would be a no-brainer IMHO.
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Glad you are not in charge of transfers. Morelos plays in an utterly shite league, and now starts most league matches on the bench due to Defoe outscoring him. He's also a red card waiting to happen. No thanks
So am I given the crap Dougie gets.

However, there is a process of active rotation of strikers adopted by Gerard based on the playing style of their opponents. Apart from Scottish Prem Morelos plays in Europe and has been recalled to the Columbian national team. 5 goals from 8 with no yellow or red cards in the Scottish league this season 9 goals from 10 in Europe this season although I concede he has had 4 yellows in the 10 European matches heís played. Earns about 30k per week currently. Heís 23 and I think he would be able to step up - just my opinion obviously. The reality is going forward for Palace itís about living within our means and I donít think we can keep going for 100k plus per week players like Batshuayi, I think we have to be a bit more canny
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