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Old 13-06-2019, 09:42 PM
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Hodgson said at the VP dinner that the physicality of the EPL was a big issue for Max. He was totally exhausted in many of the games. Burnley away he told the club he had never experienced anything like that in his whole career.

I think this pre season he will have time to improve strength and stamina. Could be huge for him.
I have no doubt he has found our game a lot more harder to adapt to, but this is a very good player that has played at the highest level for club and Country so is that really the issue? or could it be that if he had played more often his fitness levels and stamina would have improved much quicker.
My opinion is he is an excellent player that is simply playing at the wrong club, he needs a club that plays a passing game like Wolves or Norwich, wherby Palace's midfield is more of a robust playing style.
But as you say if he stays pre season could be crucial to seeing the player we all hoped to see.
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Old 14-06-2019, 12:59 AM
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man I can't wait to watch him next season, like many ITT I really believe Max will show his quality. If Wilf stays the thought of him linking up with a more experienced/fitter MM is exciting. Get him floating between the lines and someone supplying him regularly (Seri?) v the shite sides and Burnley and I'm sure the home form will improve
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Itís obvious to literally everyone that his physical presence is a huge reasons why heís not playing more.
It didnít stop Cabaye, I always saw him as a like for like replacement.
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Old 14-06-2019, 08:26 AM
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It didnít stop Cabaye, I always saw him as a like for like replacement.
I find it unbelievable for anyone who's really watched both players to have this view. 3 years at Palace, and so many fans seem not to have noticed what Cabaye actually did.
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Old 14-06-2019, 09:06 AM
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I find it unbelievable for anyone who's really watched both players to have this view. 3 years at Palace, and so many fans seem not to have noticed what Cabaye actually did.
Donít engage him. Seriously he doesnít have a clue.
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Why is that so wrong? Both technically gifted players who prefer to play deep with some defensive qualities.

We have barely seen max in the middle so it’s hard to judge.
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Old 14-06-2019, 09:54 AM
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Old 14-06-2019, 10:15 AM
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I have no doubt he has found our game a lot more harder to adapt to, but this is a very good player that has played at the highest level for club and Country so is that really the issue? or could it be that if he had played more often his fitness levels and stamina would have improved much quicker.
My opinion is he is an excellent player that is simply playing at the wrong club, he needs a club that plays a passing game like Wolves or Norwich, wherby Palace's midfield is more of a robust playing style.
But as you say if he stays pre season could be crucial to seeing the player we all hoped to see.
The German league is slower and less physical than other top leagues which maybe why there are not too many top German players in the PL.
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Old 14-06-2019, 10:48 AM
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The German league is slower and less physical than other top leagues which maybe why there are not too many top German players in the PL.
And why many young English players go there and do well.
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Germany normally wins the world cup. Where do their players play?
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The German league is slower and less physical than other top leagues which maybe why there are not too many top German players in the PL.
The German players never lack for mental and physical strength or fitness, Max is a very good player if you make the runs he will find the pass, he is not a good def player unless you count ball retention a very important part of the modern game. This season i think we will see the best of him if we keep the squad together.
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Germany normally wins the world cup. Where do their players play?
An odd definition of 'normally'
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Germany normally wins the world cup. Where do their players play?
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Couple of points though, 5 of the 7 players from the German league are from 1 club. As many players as came from the German league, outside Bayern, came from the PL.

Oh and they lost that game and have been pretty poor for years, currently outside the FIFA top 10.

World Number 1 Belgium, in their last game 7 of 11 starters play in PL. France often have up to half their starting XI from the PL, Brazil's last game was 4 of 11 starters and then come England in 4th where everyone is in the PL. The exceptions in FIFA's top 5 are Portugal where it is only 2.

If you take the FIFA top 5 more players play in the PL than any other league and by a significant margin.
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1 win since 1990? Not bad still.

Not that that has anything to do with commenting that the German domestic league is slower and less physical. So is Spain's to an extent, and doesn't impact them much.

Domestic leagues are probably better compared by CL and Europa standings, rather than international teams. German teams have fallen away a little over recent years to my mind.
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1 win since 1990? Not bad still.

Not that that has anything to do with commenting that the German domestic league is slower and less physical. So is Spain's to an extent, and doesn't impact them much.

Domestic leagues are probably better compared by CL and Europa standings, rather than international teams. German teams have fallen away a little over recent years to my mind.
I think the CL is different as that is over 2 games compared to a season of 38 fast and physical games. It is noticable how few German players are in the PL compared to other European nations and of those not too many of the German players are the better players. I think Huddersfield had the most, yet MC had 2 and Chelsea 1.
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I think the CL is different as that is over 2 games compared to a season of 38 fast and physical games. It is noticable how few German players are in the PL compared to other European nations and of those not too many of the German players are the better players. I think Huddersfield had the most, yet MC had 2 and Chelsea 1.
I think Norwich have seven German's in their squad, will be interesting how they adapt next season.......
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I think Norwich have seven German's in their squad, will be interesting how they adapt next season.......
Norwich will have to change drastically, play the expansive football they did in the championship, and they’ll get walloped most weeks. Definitely my relegation pick at the moment.
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