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Old 06-03-2019, 06:43 PM
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Dont think for one moment that the Police are not politically motivated, will skewer facts and evidence. Falling police numbers undermines their control and Police leaders will respond on the streets in a churlish way to make a point in funding.
That's true, but you are politically motivated too.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:44 PM
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If the Tories or any other party dramatically increased police numbers they'd be accused of turning Britain into a police state.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:52 PM
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If the Tories or any other party dramatically increased police numbers they'd be accused of turning Britain into a police state.
Probably.

It's not just police numbers though, it's local services all round - crime and homelessness on the rise, nowhere to turn to - cuts in benefits, sanctions for jobseekers and disabled - what do you expect?

Hardship and crime.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:54 PM
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Is this not deterrent enough?

Lots of people seem to think that the lack of deterrent in the problem. I strongly disagree.
The more than once part boils my piss.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:54 PM
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If the Tories or any other party dramatically increased police numbers they'd be accused of turning Britain into a police state.
Exactly what Thatcher did in the 80s. Unfortunately the only interview test back then was to be able to grunt twice and then smash a giant malteser open with one blow of a truncheon.
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Old 06-03-2019, 06:55 PM
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By the way - does anybody on earth think that appointing a "knife tsar" is the solution?
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Old 06-03-2019, 07:12 PM
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No one gives a shyte, having worked in a shop I can spot a shop lifter a mile off, I see it all the time. Its just allowed to happen honest people pay for it in higher prices.

What has societal rejection got to do with police?
Absolutely this.
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Old 06-03-2019, 07:16 PM
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By the way - does anybody on earth think that appointing a "knife tsar" is the solution?
Baron Bernard Hogan Howe is busily writing himself a job description.
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Old 06-03-2019, 07:17 PM
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How many of those kids killed are from broken homes and single parent familys. There never seems to be any male role models i.e a father in there lives.
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:00 PM
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By the way - does anybody on earth think that appointing a "knife tsar" is the solution?
Daft idea. We need less nicks not more.
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:28 PM
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So you don't go to prison the first time? I think that says it all.
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:38 PM
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How about only using prisons for violent crime?
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:41 PM
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Was talking to a copper I know about this he said 90% of stabbings in London will be drug related someone selling on there patch fighting over areas ect .he also added even if there was more police to fight it when it gets to court a lot will be let off a prison sentence so till there's a punishment that will frighten offenders from carrying knifes guns or actualy using weapon to kill someone this will carry on .what did the guy get who in the middle of croydon in broad daylight caught on camera running up road with big knife get .
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It's either about drugs or drug use
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:46 PM
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It seems pretty obvious to me that austerity is to blame. And in so many cases, cuts have been a false economy. Look at children's services; cuts to early intervention and programmes like Sure Start have just resulted in increased demand for far more expensive hard end interventions in child protection and taking children into care. In schools, a combination of reduced funding; reduced support from other services (such as social care) and a high stakes accountability framework has led to big increases in exclusions and, even worse, 'off-rolling' (in effect exclusions without a proper process).

So yes, cuts to police are part of the cause; but cuts to other services are far more important.
Got enough money for there gear tho,cuts have some effect ,but it's not all down to austerity
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Id highly recommend giving this a watch. Very articulate and intelligent bloke.
Good interview. Shame it'll be ignored.
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Exactly what Thatcher did in the 80s. Unfortunately the only interview test back then was to be able to grunt twice and then smash a giant malteser open with one blow of a truncheon.
But we are almost 40 years on from that now,you increase the stop and search ,all police have body cams or most of them,increase the sentence
40 years ago not many people I knew were carrying knives and cocaine was for rockstars
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Violent crime is considerably lower now than it was 40 years ago.
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Good interview. Shame it'll be ignored.
I watched it ,and he's right but I do think it is getting out of hand
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The problem with this graph is that it is not relevant to the OP. This is ALL violent crime and not just knife crime. The correlation is for knife crime and a fall in police numbers from 2014.
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