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Old 04-05-2019, 02:43 PM
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Regardless of what happens with Wilf we should be all over this. Wanted RLC and Sessegnon but they wont be available to us. Lookman will be, if we pay the big fee - think Everton want 25m, or at least they did last summer. Worth every penny.
Hes 22 this year. He is hardly a youngster now, but what has he done to get such rave reviews?
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Old 04-05-2019, 10:26 PM
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Hes 22 this year. He is hardly a youngster now, but what has he done to get such rave reviews?
Didn't he do really well on loan at Leipzig? I will admit that I haven't seen enough of him to have a really informed opinion but he has looked good in moments when he has been used on MOTD too.
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Didn't he do really well on loan at Leipzig? I will admit that I haven't seen enough of him to have a really informed opinion but he has looked good in moments when he has been used on MOTD too.
Haha and right on cue he delivers another good highlight on MOTD.
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Old 04-05-2019, 10:43 PM
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He did do well at Leipzig - I watched him maybe half a dozen times as the Bundesliga was live on NZ tv at very convenient times. But there are some caveats:
- he was often used as a sub so he tore through tiring defenders
- he was playing for a very good team (finished 2nd iirc) with an excellent striker (Timo Werner)
- the team was set up well for his strengths (though, arguably, so is Palace) of counter attacking at pace
- the Bundesliga is not the Premier League.
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Rumoured to be available for 20m, Southampton interested.
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Exactly what has Lookman done to make people want him every window?? Can't think of a single thing actually.
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Rumoured to be available for 20m, Southampton interested.
Not saying it's without some truth, but it's so easy to plant these rumours (selling agents) in order to drive up bidding levels on an asset prior to sale.

Ex-Leipzig manager shows interest, is going sound good and feasible.
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Exactly what has Lookman done to make people want him every window?? Can't think of a single thing actually.
I have to agree, he always to me looks just a "busy" player but with no real conviction and produces little end product, maybe if played on a regular basis it would be very different. But i also have to say in todays crazy transfer market 20m for a 21yr old with big potential to be good does make sense, but i certainly dont see him as being a Zaha replacement if thats what our fans are assuming, or possibily as replacement for Townsend is an option if we decide to sell him, but i dont see him joining if we keep both WZ and AT.
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Everton also looking to get rid of wallcott

If zaha does go and we could get lookman and wallcott in for around 20m to replace ayew and zaha we’d probably be 50k p/w and 50m + better off. We’d also have a hot prospect and an experienced proven player both of which would suit 433 and 442 in our style of play.

Lot of money left over for a striker etc
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Everton also looking to get rid of wallcott

If zaha does go and we could get lookman and wallcott in for around 20m to replace ayew and zaha we’d probably be 50k p/w and 50m + better off. We’d also have a hot prospect and an experienced proven player both of which would suit 433 and 442 in our style of play.

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We can't replace Zaha 1-on-1. Our way attacking by "giving it to Wilf and see what happens" is not gonna work with Walcott or Lookman. They are both fine players in their own right but neither will replace Wilf. If we sell him then we need to look at the whole team and way of playing with new eyes. We need a new plan A, an real plan B, and also a plan C when called upon. Without Wilf we have none.
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He did do well at Leipzig - I watched him maybe half a dozen times as the Bundesliga was live on NZ tv at very convenient times. But there are some caveats:
- he was often used as a sub so he tore through tiring defenders
- he was playing for a very good team (finished 2nd iirc) with an excellent striker (Timo Werner)
- the team was set up well for his strengths (though, arguably, so is Palace) of counter attacking at pace
- the Bundesliga is not the Premier League.
RB Leipzig finished 6th last season, well 2017/18 season now when Lookman was there.
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We can't replace Zaha 1-on-1. Our way attacking by "giving it to Wilf and see what happens" is not gonna work with Walcott or Lookman. They are both fine players in their own right but neither will replace Wilf. If we sell him then we need to look at the whole team and way of playing with new eyes. We need a new plan A, an real plan B, and also a plan C when called upon. Without Wilf we have none.
Think we will need the Wilf money plus our remaining transfer kitty to pay for a striker, winger and creative midfielder to change the way we play. Trouble is that our wage bill will go up.
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Think we will need the Wilf money plus our remaining transfer kitty to pay for a striker, winger and creative midfielder to change the way we play. Trouble is that our wage bill will go up.
True, but there is also no way we can replace Wilf with a similar style and/or quality player within our budget. Only the likes of Hazard, Pedro or Sane can do what he does.

So if we sell we are left with a choice: play on as normal with an inferior player in Wilf's role (be it Lookman, James or A.N.Other) and hope he can emulate what Wilf does, or we can take a different approach by spending the cash we get to fill other holes and change our style of play.


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I think Everton will be looking to get rid of Bolasie long before they start taking offers for Lookman.
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I think Everton will be looking to get rid of Bolasie long before they start taking offers for Lookman.
They already tried getting rid of Bolasie and failed, sometimes its about who you can sell, not who you want to sell most
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Newspaper reports saying they want rid of 15 players. How true that is I don't know but they do have quite a few players on big wages who aren't playing.

What happened to the Ajax no.10 they signed for big bucks? (when they already had Rooney, Ross Barkley and then went and signed Gylfi Siggesson)
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Newspaper reports saying they want rid of 15 players. How true that is I don't know but they do have quite a few players on big wages who aren't playing.

What happened to the Ajax no.10 they signed for big bucks? (when they already had Rooney, Ross Barkley and then went and signed Gylfi Siggesson)
Klaasen ?? Transferred to Werder Bremen for 12 mill or so at the start of 18/19 season
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Newspaper reports saying they want rid of 15 players. How true that is I don't know but they do have quite a few players on big wages who aren't playing.

What happened to the Ajax no.10 they signed for big bucks? (when they already had Rooney, Ross Barkley and then went and signed Gylfi Siggesson)
Looking at their squad on wiki they have a lot of players (probably close to 15) who are late 20s or older, not really playing for them and probably on high wages. I think they will struggle to get rid of a lot of them or have to take a big hit and continue paying part of the players salaries.
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They won' get any offers for Bolasie but they might for Lookman.
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