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Old 21-06-2019, 11:11 AM
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Er yes, she was planning a protest - I don't think anyone is denying this. (And do you want to guess which Minister said in the House of Commons that women should be able to protest without fear of violence?)

I can't see why he had immediately to grab her rather than, for example, attempt to block her path. He went straight for an overly physical approach.
No one knows that do they.
If your Mrs was in a prominent position and some random person went towards her to cause her harm of any kind, would you not intervene?

I know I would.

He wasn’t exactly in a standing position. He reacted and stopped her. I’m sure he regrets even having to do it. She has no place there and he did what he thought was right. It’s never going to be a smooth block or just a case of saying “er excuse me can you stop whatever you’re thinking about doing.”
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:12 AM
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There is no comparison between the Prescott and Field incidents. Prescott reacted to being struck. Field attacked someone who was walking past him.
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:13 AM
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He is not trained in Security .
Then he should have should have left it to Hammonds personal protection officer(s) to handle.
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:15 AM
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There is no comparison between the Prescott and Field incidents. Prescott reacted to being struck. Field attacked someone who was walking past him.
In terms of the actions of the member of public no they cannot. In terms of discussion of assault and being overly aggressive then i think they come into the discussion.
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Back in the day, any Tory MP worth his salt would’ve just got his little Derringer out from his inside pocket and dealt with it without leaving his seat.
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There is no comparison between the Prescott and Field incidents. Prescott reacted to being struck. Field attacked someone who was walking past him.
It really was not an attack. In context of the situation, that word is vastly inappropriate.
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:21 AM
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Trespasser heading to the stage, where the chancellor was speaking at a large annual event - unopposed.

If that had been me, I would have been clumped, arrested and detained. Using women in that way to attract attention and whining about it, when she is physically removed. They had made their point and already got their headline. But heading to the stage is asking for trouble. Am sure she is 'over it' but this will be milked for all it's worth for more headlines.

Field didn't attack anyone or throttle anyone around throat - like claimed here by usual suspects, he stopped them. It's like a running on the pitch at Selhurst and claiming you were attacked by a steward.
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:23 AM
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:24 AM
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The use of force looks pretty proportionate to the potential situation to me.
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:27 AM
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Wanker. Lock him up and throw away the key.
Same for the protesters who throw shit at politicians then ? Because that is actually assault .
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:28 AM
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The use of force looks pretty proportionate to the potential situation to me.
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:29 AM
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Back in the day, any Tory MP worth his salt would’ve just got his little Derringer out from his inside pocket and dealt with it without leaving his seat.
An open handed death strike to the oesophagus is usually sufficient to silence a filly about to get on her high horse.
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:29 AM
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What the f**k could she be armed with, and since when were environmental protesters armed and out to do harm. Its a load of bollocks by the guy to attempt to justify an unreasonable level of force for the situation.

Traditional right wing paranoia (but it could have been acid... eggs could be bombs, a woman in a dress could be a terrorist). It was clearly an organised peaceful protest, connected to the peaceful protest going on outside.

Clearly she got through security into a room of senior politicos armed with a nice frock and a bit of guile. But Mark Field thinks he's Action Man (clearly only when it comes to women).
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He saw her walking down the line of people. His reaction wasn't instinctive.
Or it was instinctive on the basis she wasn't stopped by the time she reached him?

I could understand those arguing the instinctive bit if he ran past 30 people to get to her, but she literally went past 15-20 people minimum, before getting right next to him before he stopped her?
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Old 21-06-2019, 11:32 AM
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What the f**k could she be armed with, and since when were environmental protesters armed and out to do harm. Its a load of bollocks by the guy to attempt to justify an unreasonable level of force for the situation.

Traditional right wing paranoia (but it could have been acid... eggs could be bombs, a woman in a dress could be a terrorist). It was clearly an organised peaceful protest, connected to the peaceful protest going on outside.

Clearly she got through security into a room of senior politicos armed with a nice frock and a bit of guile. But Mark Field thinks he's Action Man (clearly only when it comes to women).
Literally anything. It only takes a very short period of time for shit to go south. He got hold of her and escorted her out. Not a lot more to be said about it really.
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Same for the protesters who throw shit at politicians then ? Because that is actually assault .

I don't think anyone needs to go to jail over this, or throwing milkshakes or eggs because in none of these cases was there any actual physical harm caused.

Yes, technically they're all assaults, but no of them actually resulted in physical harm, or stemmed from a malicious intent to cause actual harm.
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Using women in that way to attract attention and whining about it, when she is physically removed.
Using women in this way?

Do you not think that despite being a woman () she may actually be acting on her own free will about something she feel strongly about.

FYI men were also part of the protest so were equally 'used'
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