Next manager saga

[TWELLSEagle]

Originally Posted by HRS

Based on his complete failure at Bolton or his complete failure at Forest?

Based on the fact he has some management experience at a decent level. I didn't say he'd be a good option, but suggesting Cahill over him is just daft.

Oh and by all means conveniently ignore the modicum of success he had you know where, which actually enabled him to get those opportunities to fail.

[TWELLSEagle]

[awaits inevitable steve parish car park comment]

[Loughlan torowz]

Originally Posted by Ticehurst

Great shout hulkster Frank's at Brentford is doing a great job,they play some of the best football around..

It's the Brentford structure that allows their managers to perform. That's what we need from Brentford - a coherent long term strategy and player recruitment model. The managers that have moved on from there haven't been that successful elsewhere; even the Villa boss looks out of his depth despite their current form.

[keithywonder]

Originally Posted by CharlieCPFC

If you look at the opposition they’ve had in the FA cups it’s fair to say they wasn’t blessed with Dover aways etc in the third round. In the league cup they’ve been in the quarters three times in six years losing to Liverpool once and Chelsea twice.

You say all that money like he had a war chest in comparison to what others in the division have spent. His record signing was Jefferson Lerma a holding midfielder for £25M. He’s not the type of player who will turn a game on its head in the same way Zaha or a Grealish can.

He spent £2M on Ake and returned £41M.
Spent £5M on Mousset and returned £10M.
Spent £8M on Mings and returned £20M.

They laid out a fair amount of money but they also sold a lot as well which makes the argument redundant that Bournemouth just spent loads. You can’t factor in the poor recruitment of players like Solanke in the argument against Howe coming here as Freedman is responsible in this area. But what Howe does have is a track record of is developing players even further to make a more sustainable model.

Thought Ake was£20M

[HRS]

Originally Posted by TWELLSEagle

Based on the fact he has some management experience at a decent level. I didn't say he'd be a good option, but suggesting Cahill over him is just daft.

Oh and by all means conveniently ignore the modicum of success he had you know where, which actually enabled him to get those opportunities to fail.

I will ignore it. 9-10 good games given what he’s done in the rest of his management career isn’t enough to suggest that he’s competent. I wouldn’t want to give it to Cahill either but I’d prefer taking a chance on a potential failure than a proven one.

For what it’s worth I’m quite happy to see Roy go if there is a plan in place for the club moving forward. If it’s a case of moving him on then dragging our heels for a month dithering over a new manager then eventually handing the reigns to novice or failed manager I think it’s better we stick for now.

[HRS]

Originally Posted by keithywonder

Thought Ake was£20M

He was, but was also sold £40m.

[Worksop Palace]

Originally Posted by Penstone Eagle

If and when he's sacked for failure, he'd be off to West Ham.

Can’t see it. Very little love lost between FL and WHU

[carter]

Howe for me. I wish we still had Allardyce though

[16eagles]

Originally Posted by ForzaPalace

Why do people think Gerrard would leave Rangers who are halfway to their first league title in 10 years?

Not saying that, obviously he won’t leave now. But could have him sign deal principle start next season.

[Bipe]

In the interests of balance, Freedman's first season at Bolton was very good. He took over when they were in the lower reaches of the division (hence why they were in the market for a new manager in the first place) and after an initial period of stabilisation, they embarked on a very strong run in the final 15 games or so which saw them shoot up the table to the very cusp of the play-offs. They would have got there too if memory serves, if they had won one of their last two games (ended up drawing both of them and missing out on goal difference).

[Since 1968]

Originally Posted by audreytatou

Someone mentioned Cahill a few posts back. Risky but very good shout.

You need the required coaching badges, which Cahill doesn't have. That is why the expert coaches on here, also aren't in the running for the job, as and when it becomes available.

[liberal clubber]

break it to us gently

[BERT'S HEAD]

Originally Posted by liberal clubber

break it to us gently

Ok - it's not George Burley.

[audreytatou]

Originally Posted by Since 1968

You need the required coaching badges, which Cahill doesn't have. That is why the expert coaches on here, also aren't in the running for the job, as and when it becomes available.

These coaching badges that all managers are now required to have... Actually, was it always that way? What do the badges involve? So you could have years of industry experience at the highest level and still have to do the badges...seems a bit rigid to me. Imagine if you had to do that in any other industry ?? Especially if, and of course it would be a big if, but if you had one of the most experienced industry professionals in the business, Roy, to mentor you... Not to mention all the others?! Ray, Dougie, blah blah blah.

[Adlerhorst]

Originally Posted by audreytatou

These coaching badges that all managers are now required to have... Actually, was it always that way? What do the badges involve? So you could have years of industry experience at the highest level and still have to do the badges...seems a bit rigid to me. Imagine if you had to do that in any other industry ?? Especially if, and of course it would be a big if, but if you had one of the most experienced industry professionals in the business, Roy, to mentor you... Not to mention all the others?! Ray, Dougie, blah blah blah.

You have that in lots of other industries. Imagine you’ve been a nurse for years, that doesn’t mean you can automatically be a doctor. Solicitors don’t get to automatically be barristers. Imagine you’ve been a court journalist for years, does that make you a barrister because you’ve watched a lot of lawyering?

[Penstone Eagle]

Originally Posted by Since 1968

You need the required coaching badges, which Cahill doesn't have. That is why the expert coaches on here, also aren't in the running for the job, as and when it becomes available.

[Eagle's Nest]

It's a big stretch, but I think Sarri would suit Palace

[BringbackShipps]

Lucien Favre could be an option...plenty of experience, success at similar sized clubs, good contacts, out of work, probably more attainable than the likes of Tuchel...would be an interesting one.

[neildp]

Has it been noticed how well Valerian Ishmael is doing at Barnsley

[Norwich_Eagle]

Originally Posted by neildp

Has it been noticed how well Valerian Ishmael is doing at Barnsley

While he has had a good start it's only 15 games.