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Old 01-01-2021, 12:12 PM
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Report I read said wba would have to pay a loan fee for rest of season pay a good part of Sakho wages and something else if they avoided relagation that I can't remember .story also hinted at that Sakho had fell out with Roy but that could just be bxxxxx .
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Old 01-01-2021, 12:13 PM
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Report I read said wba would have to pay a loan fee for rest of season pay a good part of Sakho wages and something else if they avoided relagation that I can't remember .story also hinted at that Sakho had fell out with Roy but that could just be bxxxxx .
Under no circumstances should we be loaning him to Allardyce, it has to be permanent or no deal IMO
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Dann imo is done. Started the season well but after a few games he looked slower than ever. Last 4 games he has played in he seems to have slowed further. Not just running but any mobility. He barely leaves the ground with a jump now.

Sakho is still the most talented by far.

Cahill is a fantastic defender but 400 years old and seems to have recurring hamstring issues since he hammered it against Chelsea. (Is that 3 hamstring injuries plus the dunk assault now?) He might just need to not be rushed back but we are losing defenders every week!

Kelly has been injured all season and whilst valuable back up and reliable to do a job, he is very limited in premiership quality.

Tomkins has been out a year. Lets hope he is genuinely fit now. Hoping he plays the rest of the season is a big ask.

Kouyate has, despite some ott critism been reliable, fit and very good at cb. The worst defending performance I have ever seen against Liverpool admittedly and another poor (i forget which game) aside he has been excellent.

Dann NEEDS replacing. I hate to say it as he is one of my all time favourite players but Watkins strolling around him has forced me to accept it. Big wages and we can find a club for him this window he should be first to go.

Sakho remains our best player on paper but if he can't stay fit enough to string a run together then not worth the cost. That said selling him to wba, with sam is risky. If he stays fit a chunk or remaining games I thibk he is just what they need.

Should not replace more than 2 in this window. Too much change is too much risk for one window. Dann + 1 out (maybe sakho) with 1 or 2 replacements. Perhaps 1 of proven quality and 1 youngster. + Kouyate, cahill and tomkins would be good for Jan. Then see how fit cahill and tomkins look in summer.

They have been a great selection of defenders but old and injury prone. We are starting to see the cracks as we can't keep a pair fit for any run of games. We have to refresh our options but in a controlled way, not panic
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According to the Birmingham Mail, BFS is looking to take Mamadou Sakho to West Brom in January.
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Dann imo is done. Started the season well but after a few games he looked slower than ever. Last 4 games he has played in he seems to have slowed further. Not just running but any mobility. He barely leaves the ground with a jump now.

Sakho is still the most talented by far.

Cahill is a fantastic defender but 400 years old and seems to have recurring hamstring issues since he hammered it against Chelsea. (Is that 3 hamstring injuries plus the dunk assault now?) He might just need to not be rushed back but we are losing defenders every week!

Kelly has been injured all season and whilst valuable back up and reliable to do a job, he is very limited in premiership quality.

Tomkins has been out a year. Lets hope he is genuinely fit now. Hoping he plays the rest of the season is a big ask.

Kouyate has, despite some ott critism been reliable, fit and very good at cb. The worst defending performance I have ever seen against Liverpool admittedly and another poor (i forget which game) aside he has been excellent.

Dann NEEDS replacing. I hate to say it as he is one of my all time favourite players but Watkins strolling around him has forced me to accept it. Big wages and we can find a club for him this window he should be first to go.

Sakho remains our best player on paper but if he can't stay fit enough to string a run together then not worth the cost. That said selling him to wba, with sam is risky. If he stays fit a chunk or remaining games I thibk he is just what they need.

Should not replace more than 2 in this window. Too much change is too much risk for one window. Dann + 1 out (maybe sakho) with 1 or 2 replacements. Perhaps 1 of proven quality and 1 youngster. + Kouyate, cahill and tomkins would be good for Jan. Then see how fit cahill and tomkins look in summer.

They have been a great selection of defenders but old and injury prone. We are starting to see the cracks as we can't keep a pair fit for any run of games. We have to refresh our options but in a controlled way, not panic
I'm not sure Dann is done as such. It depends how we play. But in the current style with 2 central midfielders, every time we push forwards centre backs without great pace will struggle with the counters. If we want to sit deeper again they he could still be effective but most people don't want a return to that style of play.

I think the same probably applies to Cahill.
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Old 01-01-2021, 04:25 PM
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Apart from all the mistakes he makes, Sakho can't jump. Glad he is not playing atm
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I have to say every time i have seen him he has impressed, he has been commanding and composed even when up against the quality City and Liverpool.
Is it not amazing how many quality players from the clowns a club right on our doorstep has been allowed to slip through our net, why have our scouts not spotted these players early and snapped them up.
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I have to say every time i have seen him he has impressed, he has been commanding and composed even when up against the quality City and Liverpool.
Is it not amazing how many quality players from the clowns a club right on our doorstep has been allowed to slip through our net, why have our scouts not spotted these players early and snapped them up.
For a long time, Charlton had much better academy facilities than us, and players of Ajayi’s age broke into football before we gained the added appeal of being in the Prem. So for many former Charlton academy kids, less slipped through our net, and more chose them over us I’d imagine.

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Under no circumstances should we be loaning him to Allardyce, it has to be permanent or no deal IMO
He only has 6 months left on his contract though? What's the difference
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It’s a testament to the level of talent in our catchment area that we’ve produced as many good players as we have, despite very shoddy infrastructure for such a long time.

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Itís a testament to the level of talent in our catchment area that weíve produced as many good players as we have, despite very shoddy infrastructure for such a long time.
Apart from centre backs. I canít recall the last CB that came through the academy with any chance of making it with our first team squad.

Our CB fleet is old and slow and injury prone. I do feel this is a good deal of the reason why Roy plays as he does. The midfield players canít get to far away from the defenders because they are too slow and need lots of protection. Hence he doesnít fancy Eze unless heís working his nuts off defensively.

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He only has 6 months left on his contract though? What's the difference
In that case I would rather we keep him here than help a rival.
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In that case I would rather we keep him here than help a rival.
Itís great point, Iíve been thinking same money has to be over 6-7 million. Situation could spark interest from abroad though which has been there before.
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If we could sign a youngish replacement this would make sense
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We can invoke an option to extend for another year apparently.
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I would be surprised if we did. Heís managed 72 league appearances in almost four year. Much as I like him as a player for someone on his wages thatís not sustainable.
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Tomkins and Sakho , still remain potentially the best centre back pairing but fitness is the issue . But no more than Cahill who hasn’t got many years left .

Problem is Roy refused younger centre back
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