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Old 29-10-2018, 11:52 AM
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amazing how he was written off by many on here.

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I hate the way people right players off after 5 minutes how can anyone decide on whether Ayew or Sorloth are good enough? they've hardly played.

AJ took at least 6 months of regular first team football before really getting going, nowadays he'd of been completely written off as clueless, waste of space, headless chicken blahblahblah

Personally I was quite pleased with both Ayew and Sorloth yesterday.
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Old 29-10-2018, 01:13 PM
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I hate the way people right players off after 5 minutes how can anyone decide on whether Ayew or Sorloth are good enough? they've hardly played.

AJ took at least 6 months of regular first team football before really getting going, nowadays he'd of been completely written off as clueless, waste of space, headless chicken blahblahblah

Personally I was quite pleased with both Ayew and Sorloth yesterday.
Agree and it seems to go both ways. Deciding a player is going be a superstar before he has kicked a ball. Then delight in condemning them to the bin after a couple of months no doubt. Just seems odd but it’s how it is with everything. No patience or middle ground. I blame McDonalds
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I hope he starts tomorrow, but even if he doesn't set the world alight, deserves more of a chance in a first team game. I have been impressed with him since Chelsea away, where he caused problems. He even looked a handful on the left wing v. Spurs. He heads the ball well and I remember him writing Dembele off in a 50/50. Not many do that.

I have always found it funny and weird that Golf Boy and all the rest of them have been so quick to completely write him off as he just hasn't had a chance with all our first team lads to make any impression, let alone a bad one. If anything, he has done well.

Best of luck to him tomorrow, he scored in his last start. Worth remembering.
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Some on here make judgements purely out of frustration at times. Sorloth has had little opportunity to show what he can do and when he has come on as a sub it's when we are losing with 5 to 10 mins left. Gets f all service. Our corners are woeful and he is criticised for not getting goals. I have as much chance of scoring from my seat based on the service he has had. If he has 5 or 6 starts and flops then maybe criticise but FFS give him a chance
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Strangely for a big man, I think he actually looks better with the ball at his feet rather than as a target man - he isn't as good at challenging for long balls as Benteke.

Think he's more suited to playing for us on the counter rather than when we dominate the ball and try to break teams down.

I'm happy to have him in the squad tbh
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According to one of the podcasts, he had an outburst in the Norwegian press about not being in the team, it seems Roy may have used that as an opportunity to manage him very effectively. Yesterday he wanted the ball and wanted to prove he deserves to be selected for the team, he was not doing that before.
How long before we hear that something was said but got "lost in translation"
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Agree and it seems to go both ways. Deciding a player is going be a superstar before he has kicked a ball. Then delight in condemning them to the bin after a couple of months no doubt. Just seems odd but it’s how it is with everything. No patience or middle ground. I blame McDonalds
Yeah Meyer is an absolute footballing God and Roy's clueless for not starting him. I like him but nobody really knows how good or bad he is in the Prem.

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AJ took at least 6 months of regular first team football before really getting going..
I am sorry, although i do agree with you on Sorloth, this is total bollox. AJ broke his neck in his first game, but was back 4 days later. He scored a hat trick against Brighton and then again another a few days later in October of his first season. He ended up with 14 goals that season with stats of a goal every 2.5 games.
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Have to say I’m totally shocked at how quickly palace fans have written him off
He hasn’t played
That's not true at all he hasn't been very good at all since he has arrived. He definitely played well yesterday but he still has a lot to prove. Surely even you can admit he's not been playing well?
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That's not true at all he hasn't been very good at all since he has arrived. He definitely played well yesterday but he still has a lot to prove. Surely even you can admit he's not been playing well?
"Not been playing well". It's very difficult to do that when you get 5-10 minutes at the end of a game which we are already losing.
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"Not been playing well". It's very difficult to do that when you get 5-10 minutes at the end of a game which we are already losing.
I've seen it in the media too that people have thought he hasn't really done it here either. He's had more time than you are suggesting
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I've seen it in the media too that people have thought he hasn't really done it here either. He's had more time than you are suggesting
Fair enough if you think that. I just honestly don't think people can judge someone so much when (1) he's only had a few minutes every few games (not even back to back, (2) the whole team has been poor for much of the season, so he's hardly coming into a positive / creative team, and (3) he's still only 22. As people have said, we bloody love Glenn Murray (or at least did until he went back to Brighton) and he was still playing non-league at this age.

I'm not saying I think he is the answer and I'm not even convinced myself, but the way some people are saying he's a no-hoper is just a bit extreme.
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I am sorry, although i do agree with you on Sorloth, this is total bollox. AJ broke his neck in his first game, but was back 4 days later. He scored a hat trick against Brighton and then again another a few days later in October of his first season. He ended up with 14 goals that season with stats of a goal every 2.5 games.
For Birmingham his scoring record was very poor, 8 goals in 83. So he actually took 3-4 years of first-team football at Championship level before he flourished...
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I hate the way people right players off after 5 minutes how can anyone decide on whether Ayew or Sorloth are good enough? they've hardly played.

AJ took at least 6 months of regular first team football before really getting going, nowadays he'd of been completely written off as clueless, waste of space, headless chicken blahblahblah

Personally I was quite pleased with both Ayew and Sorloth yesterday.
I think it's part of the PL lifestyle. Every point is so hard to get and so precious in this league that we all, myself included, probably over react quicker and there is less patience for results/ players.
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I think it's part of the PL lifestyle. Every point is so hard to get and so precious in this league that we all, myself included, probably over react quicker and there is less patience for results/ players.
The problem is there's a lot of hypocrisy. We often have the same people slating Sorloth but at the same time screaming out for (for example) Kai Kai to get game time, when by all accounts the (equally) limited exposure he has had has shown him also not to be up to much. We can't have it both ways. Either write everyone off equally, or don't write them off at all until they have had an extended run out.
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The problem is there's a lot of hypocrisy. We often have the same people slating Sorloth but at the same time screaming out for (for example) Kai Kai to get game time, when by all accounts the (equally) limited exposure he has had has shown him also not to be up to much. We can't have it both ways. Either write everyone off equally, or don't write them off at all until they have had an extended run out.
I don't take enough notice of who says what re. the hypocrisy thing so I just don't know. I think Sorloth is useful as a squad memeber but I also think that we paid way over the top for him. Been underwhelmed by his performances so far but I missed the game yesterday so pleased to hear him get some good reviews.

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