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I saw on the news that the policeman had only been fired!
Should have been arrested and charged with murder and banged up for good
America still has big problems
Shouldíve been sacked & arrested on the spot the ****. I know we have problems here in the uk but thank **** we ainít America.
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Sickening

Seems the officers involved have previous for race related complaints including a previous death

They should certainly be in prison for the rest of their lives, which I imagine would be short if they were sent down
Hopefully short period but long painful death, sick *****. Given the high ratio of racists in the USA police force you have to wonder about the police academies and how they are run?. Why isnít it sorted out there ?.
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This one is more likely to spawn civil disobedience and whatever evolves from that, because the video evidence is readily available and more explicit than previous, including that for Eric Gardner. The other touchpaper is the ineptitude, stupidity, absence of proper leadership and confrontational nature of the President and his sycophantic administration
Fair point. Now that you mention it, past incidents, at least in the social media age, have mostly been horrified bystanders reacting rather than a clear view of the actual victim.

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One seriously fvcked up nation.
Definitely. But I wonder if racist attitudes are really THAT much worse in the US than the UK, or if they merely have greater opportunities to act upon them. Through guns, politicians gerrymandering, and the simple fact that thereís far more black people in the US to screw over.
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In terms of the U.K. there has been things like this:

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Not in remotely the same bracket of course but still horrible if you’re black. The guy handcuffed is an ambulance driver. Still gets his clap.
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This has been going on for years and years and years. The police have been able to kill black people with impunity ever since there have been police.

Look at the figures for black people dying in custody, resisting arrest etc it's enormous. And the police culture is 'above all' you cover for your fellow officers.

Why this has become such an issue in the last 5 years is down to one thing, mobile phones having video cameras. Before this would have just passed off as thousands of other deaths has passed off, the guy resisted arrest, and that's it, only because this was caught on camera has it become anything
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Definitely. But I wonder if racist attitudes are really THAT much worse in the US than the UK, or if they merely have greater opportunities to act upon them. Through guns, politicians gerrymandering, and the simple fact that thereís far more black people in the US to screw over.
Nope, they are much worse in the US.

But it also true that the US is a more violent country full stop.
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This has been going on for years and years and years. The police have been able to kill black people with impunity ever since there have been police.

Look at the figures for black people dying in custody, resisting arrest etc it's enormous. And the police culture is 'above all' you cover for your fellow officers.

Why this has become such an issue in the last 5 years is down to one thing, mobile phones having video cameras. Before this would have just passed off as thousands of other deaths has passed off, the guy resisted arrest, and that's it, only because this was caught on camera has it become anything
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Old 29-05-2020, 02:29 PM
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I am not saying there aren't problems in the UK or elsewhere but I am specifically talking the US here
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Shouldíve been sacked & arrested on the spot the ****. I know we have problems here in the uk but thank **** we ainít America.
It is as clear as day the problem they have in the heartlands there.

You have cops doing this to black people several times a year somewhere. At the same time you have white men walking around carrying rocket launchers and the like demonstrating their freedoms in a pandemic and police don't even pop over and have a word.

As a country they don't seem to be able to make progress.
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F***ing awful. The arrogance and callousness of the cops in the video is beyond belief. They will get their comeuppance one way or another I am sure...
The cops that did for Rodney King didn't.
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This has been going on for years and years and years. The police have been able to kill black people with impunity ever since there have been police.

Look at the figures for black people dying in custody, resisting arrest etc it's enormous. And the police culture is 'above all' you cover for your fellow officers.

Why this has become such an issue in the last 5 years is down to one thing, mobile phones having video cameras. Before this would have just passed off as thousands of other deaths has passed off, the guy resisted arrest, and that's it, only because this was caught on camera has it become anything
I think it is even starker in some states withregard to prison numbers and make up of inmates. The three strikes rule.

An interesting study would be the comparative length of sentences, and chance of jail time of people based on their race. And then factor in chances of parole statistics based on race as well.
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There was a report recently where a black man was out jogging during lock down - cant recall which state (probably southern), and he was followed by two pathetic hillbilles who gunned him down. If i recall the report correctly, they said that he fitted the description of someone who'd committed a rape nearby. He didn't and was totally innocent.
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There was a report recently where a black man was out jogging during lock down - cant recall which state (probably southern), and he was followed by two pathetic hillbilles who gunned him down. If i recall the report correctly, they said that he fitted the description of someone who'd committed a rape nearby. He didn't and was totally innocent.
That's the kind of sh1t that really fks me off.
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There was a report recently where a black man was out jogging during lock down - cant recall which state (probably southern), and he was followed by two pathetic hillbilles who gunned him down. If i recall the report correctly, they said that he fitted the description of someone who'd committed a rape nearby. He didn't and was totally innocent.
That's the kind of sh1t that really fks me off.
That was in Georgia. The worst thing was that the authorities took no action against the (white) killers for two months until the video was seen by the public.
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I think it is even starker in some states withregard to prison numbers and make up of inmates. The three strikes rule.

An interesting study would be the comparative length of sentences, and chance of jail time of people based on their race. And then factor in chances of parole statistics based on race as well.

Do you know how many people are in prison in America, it is beyond shocking 2.3 million people. It has become a business. A business that is creeping ever more steadily into the UK.

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It is a hangover from slavery. There is a latent fear in white people (particularly in the southern slave states) that the blacks will rise up and overthrow thier white oppressors. Despite emancipation the blacks need to be controlled and the criminal justice system is the method of control. A white man killing a black man is not really a crime. More in the nature of self-defense. When a white cop kills a black man they are protecting white people and do not deserve condemnation.
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People also forget that it wasnít always like that. Under Reagan onwards prison populations rocketed. Itís barbaric. Some innocent Black Panthers were kept in solitary confinement for decades.
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